The conditions are getting worse everyday.
I really don't know what this crazy presedent is up to.

I wanna see what will be the national unions response to this.

meh we're pure hypocrits to stop everyone else from developing nuclear technology when we have it ourselves... are we on sum sort of pedestal that makes us special? if we want the world to stop... we gotta throw away our nukes... and i dont see that happening any time soon...

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Originally posted by GQ_IRAQI meh we're pure hypocrits to stop everyone else from developing nuclear technology when we have it ourselves... are we on sum sort of pedestal that makes us special? if we want the world to stop... we gotta throw away our nukes... and i dont see that happening any time soon...

um. isn't canada is a nuke-free country. i thought that we never made them ouselves, even though at one point we housed some for the americans, but that was years ago (1984??)

Canada also signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty in 1970 and the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty which Canada signed in 1996.

there are seven countries that are known to have exploded nuclear weapons; the United States of America, Russia, the United Kingdom, France, China, India and Pakistan, while Israel is suspect. canada is definitely not on that list

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Originally posted by spitty um. isn't canada is a nuke-free country. i thought that we never made them ouselves, even though at one point we housed some for the americans, but that was years ago (1984??) Canada also signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty in 1970 and the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty which Canada signed in 1996. there are seven countries that are known to have exploded nuclear weapons; the United States of America, Russia, the United Kingdom, France, China, India and Pakistan, while Israel is suspect. canada is definitely not on that list

i think GQ_Iraqi is talking about nuclear power not nuclear weapones.
there are 31 countries including Canada(here is a LIST) that have nuclear power only 8 of of the 31 have weapones.

Iran is asking to have power but the worry is if they have hidden intentions to develope weapones.

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Originally posted by GQ_IRAQI meh we're pure hypocrits to stop everyone else from developing nuclear technology when we have it ourselves... are we on sum sort of pedestal that makes us special? if we want the world to stop... we gotta throw away our nukes... and i dont see that happening any time soon...

It's about principal. If we let Iran develop nuclear technology, then other countries are going to say, "Hey, if Iran was allowed to develop nuclear technology, why can't we?" Then you have a problem. Besides, given the current government in place, Iran isn't exactly the ideal country to even have at risk of developing nuclear weapons.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I'm pretty sure the reason global society does not want Iran to develop nuclear technology is because they are are not being cooperative with the IAEA.

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Originally posted by Plump Funk there are 31 countries including Canada(here is a LIST) that have nuclear power only 8 of of the 31 have weapones.

Only 7 have declared and are confirmed to have weapons; USA, UK, France, Russia, China, Pakistan, and India. North Korea has declared themselves to be a nuclear power but have not conducted any tests. Isreal is suspected of being a nuclear power, largely due to their military relationship with the US. Canada likely has US owned nuclear weapons on our soil (launch systems were installed near North Bay back in the 60s.... at that time it was said the warheads would be kept in Detroit and taken to North Bay and installed if needed.... if you understand the time constraints of ICBMs then you understand this is simply not possible therefore it is suspected the missles are armed). South Africa was a nuclear power but they have since destroyed their stockpile.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Only 7 have declared and are confirmed to have weapons; USA, UK, France, Russia, China, Pakistan, and India. North Korea has declared themselves to be a nuclear power but have not conducted any tests. Isreal is suspected of being a nuclear power, largely due to their military relationship with the US. Canada likely has US owned nuclear weapons on our soil (launch systems were installed near North Bay back in the 60s.... at that time it was said the warheads would be kept in Detroit and taken to North Bay and installed if needed.... if you understand the time constraints of ICBMs then you understand this is simply not possible therefore it is suspected the missles are armed). South Africa was a nuclear power but they have since destroyed their stockpile.

the 8th that i added was North Korea not Canada, didnt NK confirm they had them?

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Originally posted by Plump Funk the 8th that i added was north korea, didnt they confirm they had them?

NK declared they had them but have not tested them and no intellegence (made public anyway) has confirmed it. They did test a launching system (which could carry a nuclear warhead) that was capable of hitting Japan but they have not tested any warhead.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

You know what I can't understand? Maybe someone can clarify..


North Korea confirms, that it has Nuclear Weapons, nuclear technology and so on. Yet Iran that still has a long way to go in order to produce nuclear weapons causes the international community to stir.

Am I wrong, or hasn't North Korea been just as great a threat as Iran has to the international community?

Am I wrong, or hasn't North Korea effectively extorted, money, oil, food and etc.. by leveraging it's nuclear power from the U.S and other countries?

Am I wrong, or doesn't the international community seem a bit hypocritical by using diplomacy with North Korea and force with Iran?

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Originally posted by drgoodvibe You know what I can't understand? Maybe someone can clarify.. North Korea confirms, that it has Nuclear Weapons, nuclear technology and so on. Yet Iran that still has a long way to go in order to produce nuclear weapons causes the international community to stir. Am I wrong, or hasn't North Korea been just as great a threat as Iran has to the international community? Am I wrong, or hasn't North Korea effectively extorted, money, oil, food and etc.. by leveraging it's nuclear power from the U.S and other countries? Am I wrong, or doesn't the international community seem a bit hypocritical by using diplomacy with North Korea and force with Iran?

North Korea claims to have nuclear weapons, they have not confirmed this (no test = no confirmation).

North Korea and Iran are very different situations. First - North Korea does not have the industrial capacity to manufacture weapons on a large scale.... Iran does. Second - North Korea is willing to negotiate with the international community.... Iran is not. Third - Iran has the capacity to use it's weapons (if developed) against several of the US's friends and economically important areas.... North Korea really only threatens Japan. Fourth - North Korea is motivated by economic concerns..... Iran is motivated by ideology. Fifth - North Korea is situated in a relatively stable area of the world.... Iran, not so much.

I think the first and fourth are the most significant of all. The world is pretty certain that the North Koreans do not have the resources to actually develop a viable nuclear program and they can be easily bought off for minimal economic concessions. Iran on the other hand could aquire the resources to develop a viable program and their ideological motivations are not easily dealt with.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard North Korea claims to have nuclear weapons, they have not confirmed this (no test = no confirmation). North Korea and Iran are very different situations. First - North Korea does not have the industrial capacity to manufacture weapons on a large scale.... Iran does. Second - North Korea is willing to negotiate with the international community.... Iran is not. Third - Iran has the capacity to use it's weapons (if developed) against several of the US's friends and economically important areas.... North Korea really only threatens Japan. Fourth - North Korea is motivated by economic concerns..... Iran is motivated by ideology. Fifth - North Korea is situated in a relatively stable area of the world.... Iran, not so much. I think the first and fourth are the most significant of all. The world is pretty certain that the North Koreans do not have the resources to actually develop a viable nuclear program and they can be easily bought off for minimal economic concessions. Iran on the other hand could aquire the resources to develop a viable program and their ideological motivations are not easily dealt with.

That clarifies things!

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