The little bastard never learns:

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Taliban prepare offensive against US, NATO troops [...] President Bush is expected to announce this week the dispatch of thousands of additional troops to Iraq as a stopgap measure. Such an order, Pentagon officials say, would strain the Army and Marine Corps as they man both wars. A US Army battalion fighting in a critical area of eastern Afghanistan is due to be withdrawn within weeks to deploy to Iraq. Army Brigadier General Anthony J. Tata and other US commanders say that will happen as the Taliban is expected to unleash a campaign to cut the vital road between Kabul and Kandahar. http://www.boston.com/news/world/as...in_afghanistan/

Swell. Great way to fight this war with your little "surge" - pick off the troops from the other war that are desparately needed to stay put and fight off the Taliban to support your asinine and extraordinarily unpopular "surge" fiasco in Iraq. Not like you're desparate or anything.

Oh, and if this seems eerily familar with Bush pulling his troops out of Tora Bora in the hunt for bin Laden and placing them to fight in Iraq instead, you're not alone.

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How many troops will be dispatched from Afghanistan? All 20k?

If so, all I can guess, that by taking people to a war out of the US right now, will have a negative response on his and this war rating.

This pretty much negates any positive outlook on the US that would have been present in south-central Asia.

We left Afghanistan high and dry twice now.

I had an epiphany of sorts today after hearing a snippet of Rush Limbaugh (a guy at work listens to it...makes me glad I got an iPod for Christmas) that the same people who are crying foul and saying that the "liberals" all want to "cut and run" are the same people who have no problem at all with how we cut and run in Afghanistan in 1989, and won't admit that we, as a nation, have now failed to fulfill the spirit of our promises to the Afghan people TWICE in 20 years.

We had a chance in 2001-2002 to finally correct the wrong created by the CIA during the Afghan war with the USSR and we totally fucking blew it by invading Iraq on shady pretenses and with a horrible plan of action (if you can say there was really any plan of action at all past the Blitzkrieg first week).


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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 The little bastard never learns: Swell. Great way to fight this war with your little "surge" - pick off the troops from the other war that are desparately needed to stay put and fight off the Taliban to support your asinine and extraordinarily unpopular "surge" fiasco in Iraq. Not like you're desparate or anything. Oh, and if this seems eerily familar with Bush pulling his troops out of Tora Bora in the hunt for bin Laden and placing them to fight in Iraq instead, you're not alone.

so Opus what do you know about which ONE battalion is going where because who said they could go?

do you people know how big a battalion is? how big this one is? how well this ONE battalion can fight?

this isn't your war Opus. spare us your concern and don't pretend it is.

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Originally posted by Q5echo so Opus what do you know about which ONE battalion is going where because who said they could go? do you people know how big a battalion is? how big this one is? how well this ONE battalion can fight? this isn't your war Opus. spare us your concern and don't pretend it is.

thats hardly relevant. the point is afghanistan is unstable, getting worse by all accounts, and he's pulling troops from it to send to iraq, where they're gonna achieve what exactly? whats an extra 20K going to do that the previous 140K couldn't?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN thats hardly relevant. the point is afghanistan is unstable,

my point is completely relevant. Bush didn't call out this one battalion, his Commanders did.

making an assertion that Afghanistan is so "unstable" that it couldn't possibly warrant the loss of ONE battalion to protect ONE road only limits your understanding of why this ONE battalion was selected.

The issue is there is now no reason to be in Iraq nor Afghanistan. What's the aim now?

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Originally posted by Q5echo my point is completely relevant. Bush didn't call out this one battalion, his Commanders did. making an assertion that Afghanistan is so "unstable" that it couldn't possibly warrant the loss of ONE battalion to protect ONE road only limits your understanding of why this ONE battalion was selected.

i dont claim to have ultimate understanding. but from all reports afghanistan is sliding further away from stability, and pulling troops out (from wherever) is hardly going to help.

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Originally posted by Q5echo my point is completely relevant. Bush didn't call out this one battalion, his Commanders did. making an assertion that Afghanistan is so "unstable" that it couldn't possibly warrant the loss of ONE battalion to protect ONE road only limits your understanding of why this ONE battalion was selected.

Well then why don't you enlighten us as you seem to know these things that we don't.

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Orbax At that point you kind of crossed the rubicon and you might as well lay siege to Rome

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i dont claim to have ultimate understanding.

of course i don't either, however if a field Commander says he could spare a battalion, and i know he's got a few divisions at his disposal including NATO, i'm gonna have to take him at his word

Am I that special that you had to put me in your sig Q?

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Am I that special that you had to put me in your sig Q?

shut up.