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September eleven was not a simple operation. Could it be planned and executed without coordination with intelligence and security services – or their extensive infiltration? Of course this is just an educated guess. Why have the various aspects of the attacks been kept secret? Why are we not told who botched their responsibilities?

I lose him here, is he talking consipiracy theories (CIA involvement), or collab between terrorits and Israel? I'm confused. lol

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History tells us that repressive and cruel governments do not survive.

Well sure, ok, fine, not forever, but some last centuries.

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I don't mind saying that I actually look at him differently now.

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Those in power have specific time in office, and do not rule indefinitely, but their names will be recorded in history and will be constantly judged in the immediate and distant futures.

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I support bacteria because it is the only culture some people have.

He talks like he's a presedent of a country that has democrasy!

IF he really believes in things that he mentioned he should let all the political parties to participate in the elections .

It's so funny how they do it , they say vote for me or my freind or my freind's friend...others don have the right to be here. and they call that Democrasy. about half of iran's people don't even vote.


I wish he could question himself as well.

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Originally posted by Refinnej Those in power have specific time in office, and do not rule indefinitely, but their names will be recorded in history and will be constantly judged in the immediate and distant futures.

Iran is a "democracy" - as long as you ignore the fact that the unelected Supreme Spiritual Leader is the real source of power in Iranian politics; and that the reactionary Council of Guardians filters out the genuine reformist candidates for parliament and the presidency; or that the Revolutionary Guards ultimately provide the force that underpins clerical rule.

And let's not forget the vigilantes of Ansar-e-hezbollah, who go around beating up students and immodestly-attired women.

Don't let Iran's "president" fool you with skillfully crafted propaganda.

Iran has a constitutional theocracy, and is not a democracy by any intentional definition. The whole idea of democracy is being able to choose the laws you live under, representative democracy is about choosing the people that will write the laws you want to live under and Iran doesn't offer anything like that -- you vote for radical Islamicist A or radical Islamicist B because those are the choices the mullahs give you.

Of the +1000 nominees for President, +900 were prevented from running by the ruling theocrats. The same thing happens with their legislature every time they have an "election" for those seats too. They also regularly veto laws that contradict Islamicist values, while directly authoring the others.

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^ haha owned

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well saied RJ

how do you know all about these?

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Originally posted by extacy_bomb well saied RJ how do you know all about these?

RJ knows everything...he's one smart dude

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker ...Don't let Iran's "president" fool you with skillfully crafted propaganda. ...

yep...

While what he says isn't complete bullshit...it's far from an objective analysis of the situation...and nothing he says is new or profoundly observant.

His words have neither any more credibility nor contain any more honesty than anything that comes out of Bush's mouth...as each individual and country has it's own agenda which often conflicts with the other.

While this isn't the case of "good" vs. "evil" (as the U.S. likes to spin it), it's *quite* ironic that an Iranian president would preach about injustice to the president of the U.S.

it's kinda like the pot calling the kettle black...both countries are notoriously "unjust" in many regards.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker Iran is a "democracy" - as long as you ignore the fact that the unelected Supreme Spiritual Leader is the real source of power in Iranian politics; and that the reactionary Council of Guardians filters out the genuine reformist candidates for parliament and the presidency; or that the Revolutionary Guards ultimately provide the force that underpins clerical rule. And let's not forget the vigilantes of Ansar-e-hezbollah, who go around beating up students and immodestly-attired women. Don't let Iran's "president" fool you with skillfully crafted propaganda. Iran has a constitutional theocracy, and is not a democracy by any intentional definition. The whole idea of democracy is being able to choose the laws you live under, representative democracy is about choosing the people that will write the laws you want to live under and Iran doesn't offer anything like that -- you vote for radical Islamicist A or radical Islamicist B because those are the choices the mullahs give you. Of the +1000 nominees for President, +900 were prevented from running by the ruling theocrats. The same thing happens with their legislature every time they have an "election" for those seats too. They also regularly veto laws that contradict Islamicist values, while directly authoring the others.

Very well said.

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yeah rigth. dictators usually are very skilled talkers.
they abide by the rule 'if you cannot convince them, confuse them'.

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