wow...my parents just replaced all the windows in the house and are putting in a new furnace and air conditioner this weekend.

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I believe this will go along with their whole new strategy to develop their own energy plan for Canada. It seems that they are trying to distance them selves from the liberals in any way they can.

So here it truly is a question of money vs the environment. Too much money is being spent on the legal process and not enough on actual energy conservation.

Does that justify cutting out the good that those upgrades would have done for our environment? I have always believed that it is much cheaper to rape this land, but when will we actually start spending money?

I really do want to see the new Conservative plan for environmental change. At this point they are saying the liberal approach just wastes money and they are not behind it. I hope they can come up with a cost effictive plan that actually gets people to conserve. As of right now, Canada is far too wastefull.

Brutal.

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Originally posted by Swamper Link The Conservatives say EnerGuide is being dropped because the cost of the audits was too high. Last year, audits in support of homeowners' energy renovation grants totalled $15.1 million out of the total $44.3 million cost of the program, Natural Resources officials said.

So instead of axing the whole program, why didn't the conservatives just fix/streamline the administration of the program to reduce associated administrative costs?

This program is sooo beneficial to the economy: increases productivity (due to increased energy efficiency), catalyzes the development of energy efficient and related technologies, reducesin the amount of natural resources being consumed, stimulates the home renovation industry (construction is a primary driver of the economy).

what were they thinking?

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The PC Reign of terror continues. I'm so pissed off right now I'm at a loss of words. Let's just cancel everything that works.. why not.. it'll be fun.

Considering in Waterloo, and most University towns, those audits are performed free by 3rd and 4th year students. What a loss, cause most people will just say fuck it without the government grant.


Hey let's open some more coal burning plants, even better let's just burn our garbage too..

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the best part is that the CPC voted IN SUPPORT of this program while they were part of the opposition.

Like most of you, I was pretty pissed when I heard about this too, but then I did a little digging...

I mean, why would they do that??

It appears that this program, like a lot of other Liberal nanny State programs, was being heavily propped up with our tax dollars.
Or course our lovely liberal run media wouldn't dare point that out.

Don't even get me started on the whole Gun Registry fiasco...

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[...] The Conservatives say EnerGuide is being dropped because the cost of the audits was too high. Last year, audits in support of homeowners’ energy renovation grants totalled $15.1 million out of the total $44.3 million cost of the program, Natural Resources officials said.

That's right folks, they are telling us that 33 percent of the grants went just to public-sector union taxpayer-paid liberal-hired bureaucrats? Each year? Just for the audits? Fully one third? And that’s not even counting the cost to dole out the cash through the liberal-left bureacracy, advertise it through liberal-friendly ad firms, and then sell! sell! sell! it at election time with massive full-page dead tree ads, and more—which would all amount to a large portion of the rest of that $44.3 million, probably. That’s some efficient government!

Had I had this background information is morning, I probaby would have had a skip in my step rather than the small heart-break.

Facts are a bitch...

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So are you saying that the program probably ran out of money completly and the audits were a small part of that, but they were blamed for the program's cancelation?

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r That's right folks, they are telling us that 33 percent of the grants went just to public-sector union taxpayer-paid liberal-hired bureaucrats? Each year? Just for the audits? Fully one third? And that’s not even counting the cost to dole out the cash through the liberal-left bureacracy, advertise it through liberal-friendly ad firms, and then sell! sell! sell! it at election time with massive full-page dead tree ads, and more—which would all amount to a large portion of the rest of that $44.3 million, probably. That’s some efficient government!

But apparently the conservatives would NEVER run things the same way as the liberals. If 33% of the grants went just to public-sector union taxpayer-paid liberal-hired bureaucrats. Each year. Just for the audits. And then advertise using liberal friendly ad firms. Geez look at all the waste.

But alas I thought the CPC was based on efficiently run government. Thus solving the original "inefficient" problems with the system.

So why are they scrapping this? really?

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Originally posted by Orko So are you saying that the program probably ran out of money completly and the audits were a small part of that, but they were blamed for the program's cancelation?

No, I wouldn't say it ran out of money, it's just not a very efficiently run program.
The Liberals were talking about bumping this program's grants up another $200 Million a year and $500 Million a year for poor folks who would end up living in better than us.
So image 33% of $700 Million dollars just for auditing themselves...

you don't have to be a wiz at math to figure out that that a lot of money that we might as well burn in the fireplace to keep warm...

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well instead of eliminating it all together and hopefully replacing it with something similar sounds a whole lot more expensive than actually streamlining the current system. I'm afraid we will never see a grant again, and that's just sad.

Has a replacement system been announced? I smell cash grab... Does the federal government do anything anymore, I mean other than collect our taxes and transfer them to other provinces. Screw it, i'm gonna find me a nice cash job, collect welfare and play bingo.. I'll most likely be better off than i am now..

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