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Aquarian
king of no pants
Registered: May 2005
Location: Laval, Quebec
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Tracklist looks like all really poppy overplayed tracks. Then again I guess a school audience won't even notice.
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Jun-05-2006 02:54
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esselfortium
Junior tranceaddict

Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Wilmington, NC
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| quote: | | haha....a lot of these tracks look like they came straight out of the free tracks on the Tranceaddict website. |
<___< *cough cough* I..um..I have no idea what you're talking about. >____>
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
good on you for doing your best harmonically. but as youre already breaking a few key rules (ie -2, +5, -4) does it really matter if you break rules in those gaps too?
good luck 
btw, as the rush comes is a 10A |
Thanks to both of you for your responses.
I was somehow under the impression that -2 and +5 were legit. Did I do -4? Must have been a mistake, then, because -4 was never on my list of harmonic transitions I thought were correct. Anyway, some of the transitions in here do sound a bit wonky, but not actually sour, so I let them go because I didn't have much else to work with. I may change them in the future.
One possibility for the first gap is Orbital - Nothing Left (Breeder remix). Like a few of the other transitions, it's not perfect, but it doesn't sound bad. Just...a bit weird. So it'll do if I can't find anything better. Similarly, a possibility for the second gap is DJ Tiesto - Traffic. I tried it out while looking at all of my tracks I hadn't tried yet in that bpm range, and it works alright. Do you think anyone would notice if I pitched it up or down one semitone really really slowly over the course of the track, so it could match harmonically at both the beginning and the end? Probably. ;p
| quote: | | Tracklist looks like all really poppy overplayed tracks. Then again I guess a school audience won't even notice. |
Haha, if you've got any suggestions for lesser-known tracks I'd be glad to hear them. I'm just going based on "hm, I like this song" and "hm, mixshare says this song is in this keycode, let's see if it works", not purposely based on any sort of popularity or overplayedness. (Honestly, I don't even listen to enough sets to know that.)
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Jun-05-2006 03:01
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esselfortium
Junior tranceaddict

Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Wilmington, NC
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| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
well, as the rush comes => xit to nowhere = a -4 
i dont know a whole lot about music theory, i basically just followed what more learned TAs have said (like nemesis44) in the harmonics sticky. but with keying you can
+1
-1
-3
+4 (sometimes)
+7 (sometimes)
my faves are the -3. yum!
(paraphrasing) a +5 is a key shift or something, so while if you cut the outgoing song you might get a lift in energy, if you play two songs over each other with a +5 shift it wont sound very good. and -2 doesnt work either (as far as i know, i might be wrong).
but the above 5 harmonic choices are what i stick with, coz thats what ive been taught (thanks nem!) and my mixes always sound in key |
Thank you an enormous amount, now I finally have a definitive guide! I looked through the harmonics sticky, but it's so long that I wound up finding some inaccurate information without seeing a correction, which is why I wound up doing the -2s, the +5s, etc, and wondering why they sounded a bit off...
| quote: | I wish my school dances were this cool. |
They'll probably start protesting when they realize I'm not going to play Sandstorm, DJ Sammy, or CRAAAAAZY FROG. 
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Jun-05-2006 03:18
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Aquarian
king of no pants
Registered: May 2005
Location: Laval, Quebec
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| quote: | Originally posted by esselfortium
Haha, if you've got any suggestions for lesser-known tracks I'd be glad to hear them. I'm just going based on "hm, I like this song" and "hm, mixshare says this song is in this keycode, let's see if it works", not purposely based on any sort of popularity or overplayedness. (Honestly, I don't even listen to enough sets to know that.) |
You should try browsing the music discussion forum. There's tons of threads there with reccomendations, or go on beatport or audiojelly and do some searches based on the tracks that you already like (for example look at what labels they're signed to, then browse tracks from those labels). Like I said, at a school dance they probably won't notice, but if you play for more sophisticated, more experienced audiences eventually, then you'll need to dig deeper for your music. Besides, it's so satisfying when you find new music on your own that you didn't even know existed. 
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Jun-05-2006 03:47
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esselfortium
Junior tranceaddict

Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Wilmington, NC
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| quote: | Originally posted by plaxx
at the gig, just start playing with a good opener... then work ur way upto other tracks using the crowd as a guide, yes its ur first gig but you'll get a lot more satisfaction played a set on the spot instead of pre-mixing/preparing it. and seeing how this is a high school dance, there wont be many ciritcs, they'll just wanna hear some bangin tunes. |
If I continue down the path of DJing, I'll hopefully be able to someday experience the pleasure of improvising sets with no pre-planning. For now, though, I'm just satisfied to be able to do transitions without making mistakes.
DJing is sort of a side hobby of mine, anyway. I primarily do music production, (here's my musician myspace if you're interested, no finished trance tracks worth uploading yet but plenty of other stuff) so unless I have a huge sudden change of heart, my expertise will almost definitely always be greater as a writer/producer than as a DJ. That's not to say I don't have a lot of fun doing both, though! 
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