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They argue that their site simply directs users toward files and then manages file transfers, but does not physically host copyrighted material.

Pretty much what the Napster argument was as well. ie can one be held liable for linking to illegal content...

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Well to be honest i do hope they shut down torrents. Because a lot of people are losing money. And we will soon start to see with movies and games, a lack of programming and selection the same as we have started to see with music as a result of mass pirating.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Well to be honest i do hope they shut down torrents. Because a lot of people are losing money. And we will soon start to see with movies and games, a lack of programming and selection the same as we have started to see with music as a result of mass pirating.

Sorry music started to go down hill way before Napster got involved. Also, studies have found that the largest piraters are also the largest spenders. I can say for myself, that is 100% true. I pirate more than most people i know, but my DVD and CD collections(legit) are also larger than most people I know.

The biggest problem with the media industries is not pirating, its ani-pirating. DRM is the biggest problem facing consumers, and it will only lead to a decline in sales. If people can no longer just pop in a CD to any CD player without worrying about compatibility, there is a problem. When you have to have special video cards, and software to play your Blue-ray HD-DVD there is a HUGE problem.

They are making it much harder for consumers to get the media they want. I have spent $1000's on DVDs, but I will not support either of the next two formats for these reasons.

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Originally posted by Orko Sorry music started to go down hill way before Napster got involved. Also, studies have found that the largest piraters are also the largest spenders. I can say for myself, that is 100% true. I pirate more than most people i know, but my DVD and CD collections(legit) are also larger than most people I know. The biggest problem with the media industries is not pirating, its ani-pirating. DRM is the biggest problem facing consumers, and it will only lead to a decline in sales. If people can no longer just pop in a CD to any CD player without worrying about compatibility, there is a problem. When you have to have special video cards, and software to play your Blue-ray HD-DVD there is a HUGE problem. They are making it much harder for consumers to get the media they want. I have spent $1000's on DVDs, but I will not support either of the next two formats for these reasons.

I know of dozens of small and mid sized record labels that have either shut down, or severely scaled back their productions because of pirating. I also know personally, 2 artists who had worldwide hits who hardly made what they should have thanks to pirating and downloading.

As the one artist explained to me, in the world of downloading the money is no longer in the sales themselves, its in the merchandising. So unless you are a maddonna or britney spears and can stage huge concert tours, you arent making money.

Same goes for dj producers btw. Which is why suddenly so many producers have suddenly become djs even though they cant mix to save their lives.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Well to be honest i do hope they shut down torrents.

That's like saying we should shut down all the freeways since people break the law by speeding on them. Bit torrent facilitates sharing of all data, not neccessarily copyrighted data. Furthermore, shutting down "bit torrent" is all but impossible, as it is run as a highly decentralized network with MANY trackers.

RIP pirate bay

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Well to be honest i do hope they shut down torrents. Because a lot of people are losing money. And we will soon start to see with movies and games, a lack of programming and selection the same as we have started to see with music as a result of mass pirating.

People in the psytrance scene have been saying that for years, but more releases than ever before are coming out - even as downloading becomes more prevelant.

It used to be that a group would tour in support of an album... nowadays, it must be understood that the group makes an album to support a tour

Mutate & survive!

one shuts down, 10 start up

they got too big and they probably made tons of money off it, and then got BOOOKED

bit torrent site is easy to make no real loss to the warez

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Originally posted by Engine9 one shuts down, 10 start up

For sure, but Pirate bay was more a symbol than anything else.

They laughed at the MPAA and RIAA for years before this happened. File sharing wasn't even illegal in Sweeden until just last summer.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Well to be honest i do hope they shut down torrents. Because a lot of people are losing money. And we will soon start to see with movies and games, a lack of programming and selection the same as we have started to see with music as a result of mass pirating.

Let's not throw out the baby with the bath water. There are perfectly legal and useful uses for torrents. I hope you meant that that particular site's torrents and not bittorrent is general should be shut down .. else I'm going to have to kick tu culo

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While we could take a few thousand words here to editorialize the wastefulness of content "protection" in consumer markets, we'll keep our thoughts brief. Real pirates will always find a way to make their money by selling stolen content. Cost or technical barriers are not sufficient deterrents to people who make their living through illegal distribution of content. If it can be seen or heard in a decrypted format, it will always be possible to copy. Until it is mandatory that decryption hardware and software with a private key for everyone be implanted into our brains, media designed for mass distribution can never really have full protection from copying. Content protection is a flaming pit into which an industry terrified of change is demanding hardware designers, programmers and governments toss as much money as possible.

It was in an article about Nvidia rolling out their dual card on a single pci-e slot..

http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2769&p=2

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Originally posted by Orko For sure, but Pirate bay was more a symbol than anything else.

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