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Benjamin DuBose
Progressive trance Dj



Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Houston, Tx
Masters tempo

how many of yall use this. i mean the part where the pitch does not change on cd player.

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SVGmethod
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: LATA#555 (Santa Barbara, CA, USA)
Re: Masters tempo

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Originally posted by Benjamin_D
how many of yall use this. i mean the part where the pitch does not change on cd player.


its very useful up until 3%. If you go beyond that, the song will begin to sound a bit 'cluttered'.


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Pinokio
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Panama City, Panama
Re: Re: Masters tempo

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Originally posted by SVGmethod
its very useful up until 3%. If you go beyond that, the song will begin to sound a bit 'cluttered'.


Taht's True, I always use the master tempo,but never go beyond 3 %, if youplan to mix with this feature you better get the bpm of your records, so you know you will not go over 3 %


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ieko
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Registered: Aug 2004
Location: LATA#370 Los Angeles, California

I've found that it really depends on the track on how far you can go. I have some tunes where going past 1% makes it sound really bad. Though if you're in the 1% range you don't really need to be using it. I've also got some tracks where using it up to 6% isn't that bad at all.


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SVGmethod
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: LATA#555 (Santa Barbara, CA, USA)

quote:
Originally posted by ieko
I've found that it really depends on the track on how far you can go. I have some tunes where going past 1% makes it sound really bad. Though if you're in the 1% range you don't really need to be using it. I've also got some tracks where using it up to 6% isn't that bad at all.


rule of thumb is to not go above 3% with vocal tracks.


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miamitranceman
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Miami

quote:
Originally posted by SVGmethod
rule of thumb is to not go above 3% with vocal tracks.




It really just depends track by track though. For example...PVD sped up Santiago Nino - Believe (Max Graham Remix) like crazy on TPOD2 and it sounds so much better than the track at the original speed.


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SVGmethod
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quote:
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It really just depends track by track though. For example...PVD sped up Santiago Nino - Believe (Max Graham Remix) like crazy on TPOD2 and it sounds so much better than the track at the original speed.


theres not much going on with the vocal tho in that song anyways. But say you tried to speed up Jase From Outta Space - Do what you want (Infusion's Sky Mix) the same way....it would sound like shi+


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idoru
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Registered: May 2004
Location: Cascadia

I never use it. I see no need to.

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miamitranceman
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quote:
Originally posted by SVGmethod
theres not much going on with the vocal tho in that song anyways. But say you tried to speed up Jase From Outta Space - Do what you want (Infusion's Sky Mix) the same way....it would sound like shi+



True


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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

quote:
Originally posted by miamitranceman
It really just depends track by track though. For example...PVD sped up Santiago Nino - Believe (Max Graham Remix) like crazy on TPOD2 and it sounds so much better than the track at the original speed.



Ableton has a different master tempo system than CDJs


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djthunderbird
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Estonia, Tallinn

abletons timestretch algorithms are the worst ever! Ive had occurances where only 0.02% pitch shift would cause pretty audible artifacts.

Timestretch (master tempo) on cdj's is OK until 6% beyond that its useless. Actually the artifacts seem to come out only if the stretched track is 4/4. While playing breaks the artifacts are not that noticable.

and now to the hands down winner of all timestretch algorithms: Cubase Advanced Algorithm - You can stretch your tracks +-15% without audible artifacts with this one. Stretching Jasefos - Do What You Want (Infusion Mix) to 130bpm is not a problem with that one.


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SVGmethod
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Registered: Sep 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by djthunderbird
abletons timestretch algorithms are the worst ever! Ive had occurances where only 0.02% pitch shift would cause pretty audible artifacts.

Timestretch (master tempo) on cdj's is OK until 6% beyond that its useless. Actually the artifacts seem to come out only if the stretched track is 4/4. While playing breaks the artifacts are not that noticable.

and now to the hands down winner of all timestretch algorithms: Cubase Advanced Algorithm - You can stretch your tracks +-15% without audible artifacts with this one. Stretching Jasefos - Do What You Want (Infusion Mix) to 130bpm is not a problem with that one.


do me a favor and time stretch the original version of Snoop Dogg's "Drop it like its hot" to make it 130bpm. I wanna lay it over Tomas Andersson - Washing up (Tiga Remix)


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