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E2EK1EL
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Location: Toronto, Ontario
Cat and Dog Fur Trade in China

Old Post Jun-17-2006 12:25  China
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Goashem
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Registered: Mar 2004
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i couldnt watch more than 50 seconds of that


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Old Post Jun-17-2006 14:18  Canada
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Fir3start3r
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

I disagree with the last line of that; you CAN tell the difference between furs.
You just have to know what you're looking for.

I'm sure to them, it's just another day in the life of, not knowing any different. (or do they? dun-dun-duuuuuuunnnnn)

I normally am not a big fan of PETA and their propaganda btw and I'm sure everyone that actually watched it was quite shocked (I know I wasn't expecting that either) however good luck with this battle.
Whiney, liberal, stopping-of-the-foot tactics don't mean a damn thing over there...(<-- that's not to take away from the actual video btw; which really is heartbreaking)

*waiting for the whiney, liberal, stopping-of-the-foot hippies to tell me what an ignorant bigot and uncouth animal hater I must be...*


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Old Post Jun-17-2006 14:40  Canada
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chinamon
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Location: Markham, ON

i really doubt that video was recorded in china.
the reason why people started eating their dogs/cats in china was because the chinese government implemented a pet license fee of a few thousand dollars per year (i think around $8000 chinese yuan renmenbi). many chinese citizens cannot afford this because that is equivalent to about half a year's salary for them so they decided to eat their pet.
very few people owned any type of pet. recently, the chinese government decided to lower that pet license fee to about half the original cost so there are many pet stores popping up in china.


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bossi
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thats disgusting! those people dont have a heart and the devil will own their souls forever.

Old Post Jun-17-2006 16:19  South Africa
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Fir3start3r
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quote:
Originally posted by chinamon
i really doubt that video was recorded in china.
the reason why people started eating their dogs/cats in china was because the chinese government implemented a pet license fee of a few thousand dollars per year (i think around $8000 chinese yuan renmenbi). many chinese citizens cannot afford this because that is equivalent to about half a year's salary for them so they decided to eat their pet.
very few people owned any type of pet. recently, the chinese government decided to lower that pet license fee to about half the original cost so there are many pet stores popping up in china.


Thanks for the reality check

Now if someone could just let PETA know....


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Old Post Jun-17-2006 17:25  Canada
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Elendil
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While the video is heartbreaking, it would still do nothing for me to support PETA. They are intensely based around propeganda, and have an agenda all their own - they even go as far as to indirectly (financially) support terrorist-groups that firebomb and vandalize animal research labs.

It makes me sick seeing those animals treated in such a manner, but to be honest, it's WAY too easy for me to empathize in my cozy leather chair, in my big suburban home, with all the necessities of life right at my feet. These people live in poverty, and have one priority: feed themselves, feed their family. You do what you can to survive. Killing cats and dogs feeds them; if they didn't, they may not have the same level of employment, and a liberal ethos would do little to help them when there is NO support system for the unemployed.

Furthermore, many of us look at cats and dogs as household pets, nearly at human level (in value), however, for people elsewhere, they can be little more than livestock. In protein deprived areas, dogs do well as substitutes when all else fails. The primary drive is to survive; caring and compassion is a freedom that some people simply do not yet have.


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chinamon
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quote:
Originally posted by Elendil
While the video is heartbreaking, it would still do nothing for me to support PETA. They are intensely based around propeganda, and have an agenda all their own - they even go as far as to indirectly (financially) support terrorist-groups that firebomb and vandalize animal research labs.

It makes me sick seeing those animals treated in such a manner, but to be honest, it's WAY too easy for me to empathize in my cozy leather chair, in my big suburban home, with all the necessities of life right at my feet. These people live in poverty, and have one priority: feed themselves, feed their family. You do what you can to survive. Killing cats and dogs feeds them; if they didn't, they may not have the same level of employment, and a liberal ethos would do little to help them when there is NO support system for the unemployed.

Furthermore, many of us look at cats and dogs as household pets, nearly at human level (in value), however, for people elsewhere, they can be little more than livestock. In protein deprived areas, dogs do well as substitutes when all else fails. The primary drive is to survive; caring and compassion is a freedom that some people simply do not yet have.


very well said.


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Jem_hadar
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Yea, in truth, one needn't worry more about killing a dog than we do a squirrel or a cow over here.

It has to do w/ culture and necessities in life. We're raised to find dogs and cats cute and to keep them as pet -- as you said, we look to them as beings much like friends. We don't look to them as a source of food or income (their furs) to survive in life! That difference is CRITICAL!

It's not wrong that other cultures don't look at them the way we do.

But that said, if you're going to kill any animal, such as pigs, cows, dogs or cats, it should be done in as a humane way possible, IMO (which I guess will depend on the country/environment one lives in).


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