Intolerant? Because he didnt attend an event he was invited to? I guess if he doesnt show up to the BBQ i invited him to hes intolerant of WASP dudes from the 905 region?

Shes lucky im not the PM or shed have a slander lawsuit on her hands.

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Prime Minister Stephen Harper has chosen to "support intolerance" by refusing to attend the first World Outgames for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered athletes, singer k.d. lang said Friday. Lang will be the headline performer when the games open Saturday, with the participation of more than 13,000 athletes from around the world. "It's a sad statement that the national leader of one of the most progressive countries in the world chooses to support intolerance rather than all-inclusiveness," she told a news conference at the Olympic Stadium. "It's a very, very important moment in the GBLT [gay, bisexual, lesbian, transgendered] community's history, as well as Canadian history," she said. "It's momentous for Canada." Other leaders to appear Lang said the GBLT (usually referred to as LGBT) community shouldn't take Harper's absence personally. "It's our job to see that as an unfortunate ignorance, rather than as a statement against us," she said. "It's just that he hasn't got there in his heart." Quebec Premier Jean Charest, interim Liberal leader Bill Graham and Bloc Québécois leader Gilles Duceppe will all make appearances at the games, so Harper's absence is likely to be noticed. But a spokesman for the prime minister said there is nothing political in Harper's decision to skip the Outgames. "The prime minister receives hundred of invitations to attend several events at the same time," Dimitri Soudas told the Canadian Press in a telephone interview. "He simply can't be everywhere at the same time." Soudas said Public Works Minister Michael Fortier will represent the government at the games along with several Conservative MPs, although he didn't specify which ones. UN human rights official to speak Soudas wouldn't respond to Lang's criticisms. "She's not the first celebrity to comment on the activities of the prime minister," he said. According to Louise Roy, CEO of the organizing committee, "The first World Outgames will be the largest LGBT event ever held, encompassing sports, culture and human rights." The guest speaker at the opening dinner will be Louise Arbour, the United Nations high commissioner for human rights. "Because of the stigma attached to issues surrounding sexual orientation and gender identity, violence against LGBT persons is frequently unreported, undocumented and goes ultimately unpunished. This shameful silence is the definitive rejection of the fundamental principle of universality of rights. For this reason I am honoured to participate in this vital event," Arbour is quoted as saying on the Outgames website.

PS: somebody please tell me what your choice of sex partner has to do with competing in sports again?

I cant seem to figure that one out.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

I was just going to say...


Where are the straight olympics??
I think that idea is rediculous. I didn't read the entire article, but I think I got the gist of it. I agree, when have sports been about sexuality? I don't think there has been much discrimination towards sexually in sporting events. Maybe individuals might feel a little more open to the idea being surrounded by their kind, but still.

Good job for Harper for not attending.




ON a lighter note, they already have homosexual, bisexual, lesbian events in the olympics.
Figure skating anybody??

they can do whatever they want i just ask for the following conditions:

1) Dont whine like babies when people dont show up to your event

2) for the love of god, dont make leapfrog one of the sporting events

LOL

I for one am very intolerant of KD Lang. Have you ever heard any of her music? BLAAAAH!

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

Last edited by Jayx1 on Jul-29-2006 at 16:08

Although I agree that there is absolutely no need for this event to be taking place....however; it would have been a good thing for harper to go to this from a political point of view. Harper has already been accused of not being in favour of gays and attending something like this would have only helped him in his political career......I will be interested to see what event he is attending that day....if any.

So how does the pole vault work?

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced Although I agree that there is absolutely no need for this event to be taking place....however; it would have been a good thing for harper to go to this from a political point of view. Harper has already been accused of not being in favour of gays and attending something like this would have only helped him in his political career......I will be interested to see what event he is attending that day....if any. So how does the pole vault work?

Harper is not one to show up at events like this. Hes just not a special interest event kind of guy. Probably because hes too busy actually running the country!

Good for him for not going.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Probably because hes too busy running the country into the ground.

fixed.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Harper is not one to show up at events like this. Hes just not a special interest event kind of guy. Probably because hes too busy actually running the country!

well at least you're not a hypocrite. i'm not a supporter of harper, but with all of the discussions you started at voting time about wanting change with the conservatives, if i saw you starting to bash harper and needing to get him out, i couldn't take your opinion seriously.

plus i agree, he doesn't need to go to every event to fake his interest in every group. At least he did a good job with the lebanese canadians.

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Originally posted by djbruuen well at least you're not a hypocrite. i'm not a supporter of harper, but with all of the discussions you started at voting time about wanting change with the conservatives, if i saw you starting to bash harper and needing to get him out, i couldn't take your opinion seriously. plus i agree, he doesn't need to go to every event to fake his interest in every group. At least he did a good job with the lebanese canadians.

I support Harper. He may not be the best leader, but I have the conservatives.
I don't think he's a bad job. Give him some time, and I agree. Everyone knows he's not a big fan on the same-sex issue and KD Lang shouldn't be calling him out on that. If that's his view, then let him be.
I'm sure he has more important things to deal with (well lets hope he does.)

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Originally posted by exstasie Everyone knows he's not a big fan on the same-sex issue and KD Lang shouldn't be calling him out on that. If that's his view, then let him be. I'm sure he has more important things to deal with (well lets hope he does.)

sorry to call you out on that statement,

"let him be"?????

He is our prime minister, his views are crucial. The fact that he wishes to exist under this impression that homosexuality should exist in the fray....doesn't exist at all...or that they shouldn't get married etc etc... is against the grain/fabric of the majority of Canadians.

He is A-Canadian.

He doesn;t need more time, the more time he has the more time he has to turn Canada into America's first province.

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Originally posted by 7-4-7 sorry to call you out on that statement, "let him be"????? He is our prime minister, his views are crucial. The fact that he wishes to exist under this impression that homosexuality should exist in the fray....doesn't exist at all...or that they shouldn't get married etc etc... is against the grain/fabric of the majority of Torontonians.

FIXED

PS: Chretien was a devout catholic yet he never imposed those views on the country just as Harper isnt about to either.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 PS: Chretien was a devout catholic yet he never imposed those views on the country just as Harper isnt about to either.

yet during his reign we saw victories which brought us as a nation closer to recongnizing homosexuality as a state and promoting the union of homosexuals in marriage.

Chretien's religion was not promoted as dogma, whereas harper has decided to perpetuate old world beleifs, misconceeptions and myths that push homosexuality to a place of stigmas and an imbalance of rights based upon sexuality orientation.

which begs the question...is Toronto REALLY the only place in this nation that is pro-homosexuality? I think not. There are very vibrant gay communities all through this country in majour urban centres....not just Toronto.

actually go back and read the actual history.

The Liberals were AGAINST gay marriage as recently as 2003. Yes thats right, they were AGAINST it. Gay marriage became law because of the COURTS and not because the Liberals supported it. What the Liberals did was just let the judgment sit in order to not stir controversy.

So please dont try and tell me that Chretien or Martin supported gay marriage because thats revisionism. Martin only support gay marriage when it was clear that he could use it as a wedge issue against the opposition.

You may not agree with Harper's ideas, (and when it comes to gay marriage, i dont) but you have to admire a man who has principals and sticks to them even if it might cost him some votes.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill