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tatgirl
The Oracle



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Washington DC
debate about Viva in here

I don't want ANOTHER party review thread to turn into a flame war, debating about something off topic, so make your complaints in here, and save the thread for reviews.

Peace.


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Old Post Mar-09-2003 00:24  United States
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dEsidEL
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Registered: Aug 2000
Location: Below the Belt
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i just have a general question .. why is it than whenever some people here talk about the drugged out ppl at Viva, they have to refer to them as "asians" all the time. I mean don't get me wrong, I know the vast majority of them are, but i've also seen cracked out old 50 year old persians and south asians before at Guv, as well as cracked out old 40 year old white people at concerts. the point is, I don't have to make it a racial distinction when I write a review.. i mean i'll just refer to them as cracked out ppl. I just think that by always having to address them as cracked out old 40 year old asians it gives a lotta asians including the ones on this board a bad name and it's really not fair for us either. Many of us here don't practice the same kind of habits as some of these undersireable people (and nor do our parents!). Believe me I don't like the sight of them either, but I try not to keep thinking about it. Even after going to Guv so many times, yes there will be "ginos" there.. but I can't let that ruin my experience. You gotta bring your own vibe.


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Old Post Mar-09-2003 00:44  Micronesia-Federal State of
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sake
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.. i totally agree - there is so many threads turning into bs and it makes me come back to the 4um not that often as i was b4 (when i was being flamed) lol ..

.. i don't feel like reading all the flame in a thread - when i want to read a review only.. most of that bs can be solved over a pm.. (this way we don't have to read it)


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Old Post Mar-09-2003 00:47  Croatia
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sake
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Registered: Feb 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL
i just have a general question .. why is it than whenever some people here talk about the drugged out ppl at Viva, they have to refer to them as "asians" all the time. I mean don't get me wrong, I know the vast majority of them are, but i've also seen cracked out old 50 year old persians and south asians before at Guv, as well as cracked out old 40 year old white people at concerts. the point is, I don't have to make it a racial distinction when I write a review.. i mean i'll just refer to them as cracked out ppl. I just think that by always having to address them as cracked out old 40 year old asians it gives a lotta asians including the ones on this board a bad name and it's really not fair for us either. Many of us here don't practice the same kind of habits as some of these undersireable people (and nor do our parents!). Believe me I don't like the sight of them either, but I try not to keep thinking about it. Even after going to Guv so many times, yes there will be "ginos" there.. but I can't let that ruin my experience. You gotta bring your own vibe.


EXACTLY!

.. i mean there's always gonna be drugged people at raves and we/u can't do shit about it - let them do whatever they want to their life - it's their life not yours..

.. every review of a party has to contain some crap about people being so mashed that they don't even know which dj is spinning - not even mentioning what music he's playing..

.. i go to a party to have a good time (with my friends).. i don't go to party to look at all the other fuct people (broads are an exclusion) ..

.. if i like what my ears hear and the people i'm with at a party, nobooooody can bother me and ruin my atmosphere, cuz i'm there to groove to the music, not to judge other people..

over&out

ps. no more from me on this subject.


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Old Post Mar-09-2003 00:56  Croatia
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Nikish
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desidel...I've touched exactly same topic in the review...didn't know about this thread. Can't be bothere to repost it, but generally people need to grow up...or stay home. I think Viva is a great club, security and staff are outstanding, management is amazing and always trying to improve the club, asians dominate, but I couldn't care less, never had any problems with any1, on the contrary people are very friendly. Tis all about mutual respect, so far I've never ran into any assholes there, but if I ever will - it'll most likely be their bad luck, not mine... ;-) Treat others the way u wnana be treated...

And Tatgirl, it was nice seeing u there again, unexpected (haven't checked this site for a while ;-) ), glad u recognized me.


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INFERNO2K
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Registered: Jan 2002
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Lets all stop whining and being such babies

Old Post Mar-09-2003 01:58  Canada
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AAzn_ScratcH
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^^ reply to Desidel

The Asians are more noticable because most of them are new at it, and they just sit around asking for light shows and u know.

everyone else that gets messed gets messed with style
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dEsidEL
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Registered: Aug 2000
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KarateKid

quote:
Originally posted by AAzn_ScratcH
The Asians are more noticable because most of them are new at it, and they just sit around asking for light shows and u know.


huh? i remember those Lifeforce parties back in the 90's and there were dosed out asians sitting on the floor, some of who i knew personally ! i think that's always been man ..


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Old Post Mar-09-2003 05:02  Micronesia-Federal State of
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To be honest, the drugged out ppl at Viva have NEVER BOTHERED ME! However the one's at Guv have (not saying the Asians cause they are not the only ones there who are trippin big time). From my expoerience the one's Ihave encoutered at Viva were actrually just asking if u are having a good time. Where as the one;s at guv always bump into u like they own the danceflor. Just my 2 cents.


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Old Post Mar-09-2003 07:26  Germany
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tatgirl
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Washington DC

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
I'm just going to say this once. I don't intend to participate in any arguments relating to the subject.

Those "cracked out" people doing drugs who don't seem to care about the music are more than likely the regulars at Viva. They keep the place alive and pay Viva's bills. If it wasn't for them, the place wouldn't exist. So far I have seen one (1) newly-registered tranceaddict who goes to Viva regularly - if and when the rest of you start supporting the club like he does, then maybe you'll have a right to complain about the druggies. Until then, either live with it, be happy that you've got such great talent in such an awesome venue, or just don't go.

Man, I'm sorry to bitch, but this is the only thing that -seriously- upsets me here, people dissing clubs when they don't have a fucking clue what the reality is. Well get a clue you guys, Temporal Rhythm may be closely tied into TA and that's awesome for us, but Viva is a club run by totally separate people who you've never met and likely never will meet, and their primary concern is to make money, not to weed out "unsavoury" characters to make it a more pleasant experience for you.

I thought it was a great party and I had a great time, possibly because I spent 98% of my time with the TA's up front (which you whiners should have also done), but in all honesty the crowd did not bother me. Most of the people seemed pretty polite, they were letting me through and saying "excuse me" when trying to get through. That's all I ask for in a crowded place.


I agree with everything said here. At Viva, I make my own fun, surround myself w/the right people, and ignore all the rest. No one really bothers me there.


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Old Post Mar-09-2003 17:33  United States
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Flec
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i have NEVER got bad vibes from anyone at viva

Old Post Mar-09-2003 23:57  Canada
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DigiNut
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I may get hanged for saying this but...

We're all there to have a good time, right? I'm not one to automatically assume that just because someone is mashed, he or she is not enjoying the music.

You don't -have- to dance to enjoy music, I know I dance like a fanatic at parties, but I don't dance to music at home or on the train or at the gym. So the druggies (Asian or otherwise) have a different way of having a good time. So what. They're still really nice people. I mean damn it, people on E are the friendliest people you'll ever meet in your life. It's totally not my style to get mashed and sit through it, but that doesn't mean there's something "wrong" with it.

Now if they're coming solely for the purpose of getting fucked up then that's not so good... but I think a lot of us, when we see someone like that, automatically assume that it's the only reason they came, which isn't necessarily the case.

Alright I'm getting too serious for my own good. Peace out.

Old Post Mar-10-2003 00:07  Canada
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