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Benjamin DuBose
Progressive trance Dj



Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Houston, Tx
When you are playing out.

I went and watched andy moor play in dalles the other day. I stood almost right beside him while he was playing. I noticed that he did not use the master tempo. understandable right. this is what i didn't get. his tempo stayed at about +2 to 3% the whole 2 hours. i know you can find a shit load of songs that stay around the same bpm. But can you fing enough for a whole set and amke it a bad ass set or do some of the take some of the songs they want in it and and put them in a music program and change the bpm and keep the same key, or what. i am just courious on how he kept the pitch range so close together. any imputs on this


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miamitranceman
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Location: Miami

I'd say it's definitely possible to pick out a whole set in the same BPM range, especially since his "style" typically is infact around the same bpm (128-132)... but who knows?


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jupiterone
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: los angeles

Did he use CDJ's or Tables? Because it is possible for him to have pre-edited many of his tracks. Thats a possibility too if it were CDJ's

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Allied Nations
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: MTHELL

As a general rule, I don't like to go above +/-4. That doesn't mean I won't occasionally do it, just not often.


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nrjizer
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Bumfuck, GA

One thing I'm finding more and more is that tracks will be right on the dot at a certain BPM. Meaning, when I'm spinning longer sets, I start to see patterns in the pitch settings, and I can get a perfect beatmatch sometimes within a few seconds. For instance, on the last mix I made, probably 90% of the tracks were either at -1.60, -0.06, 0.74, or 1.48

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TazZ-erT
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Derry, Northern Ireland

I know guys who when they rip a vinyl for cdjs or download, they change the bpm of the track to a perticular bpm (so there cd collection is all the same), i like to call it cheating

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sleepydragon
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Location: doncaster, england
Re: When you are playing out.

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Originally posted by Benjamin_D
his tempo stayed at about +2 to 3% the whole 2 hours.


thats not difficult as long as he knows his tracks
he could ofplanned his set out before hand and just played tracks of a similar bpm


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skot_e
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Location: Adelaide

quote:
Originally posted by TazZ-erT
I know guys who when they rip a vinyl for cdjs or download, they change the bpm of the track to a perticular bpm (so there cd collection is all the same), i like to call it cheating

CDJ's give the tempo anyway, so it won't really take much to set the bpm match if they're not set up that way, so while it's easier/cheating, it just means you have more time to drink your beer.

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Benjamin DuBose
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Houston, Tx

he was on cdj. i guess you have to have a shit load of songs to fing a bunch in the same bpm and then still be able to mix them in key.


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Stu Cox
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At that rough speed, you can have a good 2 or 3 bpm difference between the original tempos of two tracks which are in key with them still being in key when you beatmatch them, so in an extreme case he could play a tune which is normally 128 then a tune which is normally 131 then a tune which is normally 134... etc

And remember from any key, you've got itself and 4 other keys you can mix into with it sounding good (5 keys in total, i.e. nearly half of the total number of keys if you just consider minor keys, meaning nearly half of your tunes will fit with any tune you're playing at the time) and particularly seeing that he would have played a lot of his own productions, a lot of which could well be in the same key or matching keys maybe on purpose...

So I don't think it's that hard to believe that he did the set unplanned at all.


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mzvirbulis
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Ballarat, Victoria

quote:
Originally posted by TazZ-erT
I know guys who when they rip a vinyl for cdjs or download, they change the bpm of the track to a perticular bpm (so there cd collection is all the same), i like to call it cheating


i have no idea why some dj would want to go and change pitch/bpm of a track manually with it taking alot of your time, when you could save yourself so time etc and learn to bm in 10 secs!

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Ryan0751
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Registered: May 2005
Location: Boston, MA

A lot of these bigger DJ's now do all of their own edits, likely in ableton and the like.

So if they make their own edit, it's likely they'll just punch in a BPM they are used to playing.

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i have no idea why some dj would want to go and change pitch/bpm of a track manually with it taking alot of your time, when you could save yourself so time etc and learn to bm in 10 secs!

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