Alot of people don't give there secrets away..it's all about trial and error mate..use compression and eq to make a kick drum sound big and phat...you should check out the vengeance sample cds there are some awesome kick drums on those..that would be your best option.

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i heard some rumour about 'sidechaining' the kick/bass for a 'fat' effect?

i havent a clue how to do that so this post was a bit useless sorry

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Layer kicks. This already opens up millions of posibilities if you havnt gone this way already.
To get the kick to stand out you can write your bassline with gaps for the kick. Or you can compress the kick and bass together. Have the bass lower to the compressor brings the volume of the bass up between the kicks.
Thats all just very vauge. Good sounds come from sitting there for hours and tweaking untill you come up with something. Not just hours. Sometimes days!

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Originally posted by KilldaDJ i heard some rumour about 'sidechaining' the kick/bass for a 'fat' effect? i havent a clue how to do that so this post was a bit useless sorry

Yeah instant fatness, it totally rocks.

Not... only use it for cheesy/crappy/Benassi shit

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Originally posted by DeZmA Yeah instant fatness, it totally rocks. Not... only use it for cheesy/crappy/Benassi shit

Thats just one opinion. You telling me sidechaning cant be good? Because if you do then, well... good luck to your creative side.

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Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy To get the kick to stand out you can write your bassline with gaps for the kick. Or you can compress the kick and bass together. Have the bass lower to the compressor brings the volume of the bass up between the kicks.

thats an interesting concept...im guessing that would lead to a 'clean' sounding tight bassline, my bass sounds are always muddy and kinda rumble a bad speaker system (also gathered with teh fact that im awful at mastering/mixdown)

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Ofcourse i didnt come up with it just started noticing it in other tracks and such. Analyzing midis and taking them apart is a good way to learn about structure and putting together different parts of a song.

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sidechaining is one of the big tricks to get fat bassdrums and bassline combinations in a very tight and clean production. i use it in every tune.. you don't need to overuse it like in the benassi tunes.

Layer some kicks, its easy!

Cool. Thanks for the tips. i've tried the layering and using a bit of side chaining.
I think theres probably some industry secrets for using the EQ's and compressors and maybe a little valve.
i'll keep trying but if anyone has any other advice, I'd appreciate it.

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Originally posted by thecYrus sidechaining is one of the big tricks to get fat bassdrums and bassline combinations in a very tight and clean production. i use it in every tune.. you don't need to overuse it like in the benassi tunes.

Silly me... What is this sidechaining? And can I do it with Reason?
I really have no idea...