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tvmann
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Jul 2003
Location: near Vancouver, Canada
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Re: Traktor DJ Studio (External Mixer)
You should go check the official Native Instruments Traktor forums, lots of info there.
About Midi control boxes, several just use a USB connection to your computer. If the box only has a Midi connection, a little Midi to USB converter unit can be used, they're about $50, M-Audio makes a couple.
Boxes using USB:
M-Audio X-Session
Kontrol-DJ
Feena
Behringer BCD-2000
(Hercules makes 2 different boxes and a few ppl have tried them but I haven't seen anyone recommending)
Box that uses Midi:
FaderFox
There are also a few mixers around that have Midi output but they're expensive. Such as Ecler mentioned above.
I use the X-Session, it does the job and is reliable, lightweight, and inexpensive, although it's a general-purpose box and not specially designed for Traktor. The other controllers are better and some are designed for Traktor, but they're more expensive, and bigger except for FaderFox. New controllers are coming out every few months and the designs get better each time, but I'm sticking with my trusty X-Session until something really good comes out.
Last edited by tvmann on Aug-23-2006 at 16:56
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Aug-23-2006 16:19
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DJ HARN
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Jul 2005
Location: UK
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Thanks for the info. Do all these boxs come with software drivers? Once i install the software is it just a case of selecting the device in the audio section of Traktor and assigning the functions the same as the keyboard ones?
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Aug-23-2006 17:32
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tvmann
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Jul 2003
Location: near Vancouver, Canada
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For Windows XP the X-Session doesn't use a special driver - it is a standard USB device type and gets automatically recognized when turned on for the first time. The box is Midi and has a couple of Midi in/out ports, but it normally connects to the computer by USB. A little reading on Midi will help but almost none is required.
It does have some software included that helps you customize it for different applications, but I never needed to use that software.
In Traktor it is pretty easy to assign the box knobs to various Traktor software knobs, it's the same place you set the keyboard commands as you said. The 10 useable button switches are easily assigned too, but some may need a bit of tweaking to get the desired action (the buttons act as either momentary contact/single press or on-off/double press, depending on how you set them).
I just use the X-Session to control the EQs and filters and it works well for that without much setup work, but if you want to use it for other stuff like pitch control, loop lengths, etc it will probably require more work to get it to work the way you want.
I haven't used any other Midi knob boxes, but apparently the others are similar and easy to set up, if you're not trying to do anything too ambitious with them. If you want a box that will let you do some things that would normally still be done with the laptop keys & mouse, that is going to require a more expensive unit such as the Kontrol-DJ or Feena. The Behringer may take some extra work as it has more knobs/switches and people want to use that box for more complex stuff, there are 1 or 2 threads on the Native Instruments forums about that.
Personally I wouldn't spend too much on a Midi box at this point, I'm waiting for someone to come out with a new model that will control the 4 channels of Traktor 3. There are already a couple of general-purpose boxes such as from Bitstream and the Behringer that have the extra knobs.
Last edited by tvmann on Aug-23-2006 at 19:39
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Aug-23-2006 19:03
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AnomalyConcept
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Chicagoish, USA
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I agree with Soundwerks about the Ecler Nuo4 (do I get a tshirt???? =P).
I was in your position when considering a mixer; I wanted to use it with Traktor.
However, I ended up setting it up into external mixer mode, since the software mixing wasn't really cutting it. I still have the two virtual decks in Traktor hooked up to the mixer, with channels 1 and 4 hooked up to CDJs. I can still control Traktor with the MIDI functionality in the mixer, for a total of 4 decks/sources.
With any external midi device, there will be some delay. It's not terribly noticable with the Nuo4, but it's also been a while since I've used it.
Downside to the Nuo 4 is the cost, and then, it's at a pretty decent price point for what you get.
Good luck with choosing the device that suits your needs!
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Aug-28-2006 02:36
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