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So I guess it's official: Iraq had no WMDs and no ties to 9/11

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Bush: 'We're not leaving so long as I'm president'

RAW STORY
Published: Monday August 21, 2006


US President George W. Bush has announced that the United States will not be leaving Iraq during his presidency, RAW STORY has learned.

"Either you say, 'Yes it’s important we stay there and get it done,' or we leave," Bush argued. "We’re not leaving so long as I’m the president. That would be a huge mistake."

At a news conference today, Bush also conceded that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction.

Bush opened his remarks at 10 AM, announcing that the nation would be offering $230 million in aid to Lebanon. The president also called for fast deployment of an international peacekeeping force.

Late in the conference, when asked what Iraq's role was in the World Trade Center attacks, the president said, "Nothing."

But he went on to suggest that by overthrowing Saddam Hussein's regime, the United States could forestall future acts of terrorism by defeating resentment with hope, "and the best way to do hope is through a form of government."

A full transcript of the president's remarks follow:
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Bush: Now, look, I -- part of the reason we went into Iraq: was -- the main reason we went into Iraq: at the time was we thought he had weapons of mass destruction. It turns out he didn't, but he had the capacity to make weapons of mass destruction.

But I also talked about the human suffering in Iraq, and I also talked the need to advance a freedom agenda. And so my question -- my answer to your question is, is that imagine a world in which Saddam Hussein was there, stirring up even more trouble in a part of a world that had so much resentment and so much hatred that people came and killed 3,000 of our citizens.

You know, I've heard this theory about, you know, everything was just fine until we arrived and, you know, kind of -- the "stir up the hornet's nest" theory. It just doesn't hold water as far as I'm concerned. The terrorists attacked us and killed 3,000 of our citizens before we started the freedom agenda in the Middle East. They were --

QUESTION: What did Iraq: have to do with that?

BUSH: What did Iraq: have to do with what?

QUESTION: The attack on the World Trade Center.

BUSH: Nothing, except for it's part of -- and nobody's ever suggested in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered the attack. Iraq: was a -- Iraq: -- the lesson of September the 11th is take threats before they fully materialize, Ken.

Nobody's ever suggested that the attacks of September the 11th were ordered by Iraq.
I have suggested, however, that resentment and the lack of hope create the breeding grounds for terrorists who are willing to use suiciders to kill to achieve an objective. I have made that case. And one way to defeat that -- you know, defeat resentment, is with hope. And the best way to do hope is through a form of government.

Now, I said going into Iraq: we got to take these threats seriously before they fully materialized. I saw a threat. I fully believe it was the right decision to remove Saddam Hussein, and I fully believe the world was better off without him. Now, the question is, how do we succeed in Iraq? And you don't succeed by leaving before the mission is complete, like some in this political process are suggesting.

Last question.

Stretch. Who you working for, Stretch?

QUESTION: The Washington Examiner.

BUSH: Oh, yeah. I'm glad you found work.

QUESTION: Thank you very much. (Laughter.) Mr. President, some pro- life groups are worried that your choice of FDA commissioner will approve over-the-counter sales of Plan B, a pill that they say essentially can cause early-term abortions. Do you stand by this choice? And how do you feel about Plan B in general?

BUSH: I believe that Plan B ought to be -- ought to require a prescription for minors. That's what I believe. And -- and -- and I support Andy's decision.

Thanks for letting me come by the new digs here. They may be a little too fancy for you.

QUESTION: (Off mike.)

BUSH: Huh?

QUESTION: (Off mike.)

BUSH: No, I'd be happy to go back.

QUESTION: Tell her when she can go back.

QUESTION: Are we coming back?

QUESTION: Ever?

BUSH: Absolutely, you're coming back.

QUESTION: Can we hold you to --

BUSH: Coming back to the bosom of the White House. (Laughter.) I'm looking forward to hugging you when you come back, everybody. (Soft laughter.) When are you coming back?

QUESTION: As soon as you tell us.

QUESTION: May.

BUSH: May? Is that when it is scheduled? May?

QUESTION: They've sealed off the door. You know --

QUESTION: The decision will be made by commanders on the ground, sir. (Laughter.)

QUESTION: There's no timetable.

QUESTION: We want to withdraw --

BUSH: What do you think this is, a correspondents' dinner or something? (Laughter.)

Thank you all.
http://rawstory.com/news/2006/Bush_calls_Lebanon_aid_troops_0821.html


Please update your talking points.


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I thought that it was common knowledge

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I thought that it was common knowledge

It was! BEFORE we went to war there!!!

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It was! BEFORE we went to war there!!!


Thats not true at all. Leading up to the invasion I dont recall ANYONE saying that Saddam didnt have them. Even opponenets of the invasion and subsequent occupation agreed they had suspisions. The only real argument at the time was plan of action. Containment or removal.. and "we" chose removal.

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The only weapons we 'knew' about were the weapons Saddam HIMSELF had told the weapons inspectors he had!

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There is nothing here. When did Dubya specifically say the opposite--that Iraq was behind or directly involved in the 9/11 attacks? I have only heard opponents claim that the administration made the connection for them when in reality it seems that many simply drew a false conclusion to help them rationalize their initial jumping on board with a policy they no longer agree with. Now they just say they were duped instead of acknowledging that they essentially duped themselves. Yesterday's press conference was actually quite good.

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Here's the video.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/...to-do-with-911/

Yes ditoheads please update your talking points.


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the main reason we went into Iraq: at the time was we thought he had weapons of mass destruction. It turns out he didn't, but he had the capacity to make weapons of mass destruction.


So apparently the capacity to make WMDs is a good enough reason to invade a country? Look out everyone except those tiny Pacific islands that no-one can ever remember the names of! If you have the capacity to mix a few chemicals together in a small bowl we're coming for you next!

Also, I've gotta say that reading transcripts of Bush giving unscripted responses really does my head in. The guy is literally incapable of forming a coherent sentence. I mean, what the fuck kind of thought process leads to a sentence with a syntax like this?:

quote:
Nothing, except for it's part of -- and nobody's ever suggested in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered the attack. Iraq: was a -- Iraq: -- the lesson of September the 11th is take threats before they fully materialize, Ken.



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There is concensus all over the world regarding bush's intelligence, or lack there of.

One thing we should all respect him for is, in my opinon, he truly does believe what he says and he does what he feels is right regardless of the concequences.

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There is concensus all over the world regarding bush's intelligence, or lack there of.

One thing we should all respect him for is, in my opinon, he truly does believe what he says and he does what he feels is right regardless of the concequences.

So did Hitler!!!

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He calls a guy "stretch", lol.

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Did anyone read the 'warning' Bush gave to Iran yesterday if it dosent give up?

He is acting as a spokeperson (sp?) for UN now, like he is the head of UN..

http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-08-21-voa46.cfm

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