No defense from me, Opus. But hey, it's not like he killed anybody...cough cough...Teddy Kennedy..cough cough. Wanna compare embarassing incidents from the political world? What is it with politicians and those damn interns?!?!


Seriously though--I read an IM conversation from the guy. Wow. Pretty blatant. Get him the fuck outa there.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/BrianRoss...=2509586&page=1

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wow that guys busted

that has to loose them florida



Randy "Duke" Cunningham of California after pleading guilty to accepting $2.4 million in bribes.



Majority leader Tom DeLay of Texas, indicted on state campaign finance violations.




Bob Ney of Ohio, guilty of corruption.



Mark Foley, child predator.


Under investigation:

Sen. Conrad Burns (R-Mont.) Corruption
Sen. Bill Frist (R-Tenn.), Insider Trading
Rep. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.), Corruption
Rep. Jerry Lewis (R-Calif.), Corruption
Republicans sure know how to pick the winners!

(check out the wiki for Dennis Hastert, the bulk of the article are listed controversies hes had apart in)

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THIS STORY IS A DIVERSIONARY TACTIC TO TAKE THE MEDIA AWAY FROM THE EVIL BILL THAT PASSED FRIDAY.

mmm caps.

You'd think we'd know by now when the government is trying to bullshit us... soon they will not need to.

As a matter of fact, most of us on this forum who live in America can now be legally arrested and tortured and sent to the detention camps at the whim of the federal government. Yay!

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby THIS STORY IS A DIVERSIONARY TACTIC TO TAKE THE MEDIA AWAY FROM THE EVIL BILL THAT PASSED FRIDAY. mmm caps. You'd think we'd know by now when the government is trying to bullshit us... soon they will not need to. As a matter of fact, most of us on this forum who live in America can now be legally arrested and tortured and sent to the detention camps at the whim of the federal government. Yay!

I dunno about it being a diversionary tactic. I think this is going to fuck them more than the detention camp legislation when the elections roll around.

TBH, half of this country doesn't care about the legislation because they've been brainwashed into thinking it's for their own protection, but everyone cares about a sex scandal. Kind of sad, but that seems to be how it works here.

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Anybody remember Gerry Studds? He was a Democrat congressman from Massachusetts. In 1983 Studds, and a Republican named Dan Crane were both caught having sexual relations with pages. Crane a 17-year-old female, Studds a 17-year-old male. Both admitted their wrongdoing ... and the House Ethics Committee decided to do nothing more than issue a reprimand to both.

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Originally posted by Shakka Anybody remember Gerry Studds? He was a Democrat congressman from Massachusetts. In 1983 Studds, and a Republican named Dan Crane were both caught having sexual relations with pages. Crane a 17-year-old female, Studds a 17-year-old male. Both admitted their wrongdoing ... and the House Ethics Committee decided to do nothing more than issue a reprimand to both.

I actually first heard of these two yesterday, since I was 3 when this happened. At 17, both of them were over the age of consent. The interesting aspect of these cases is summed up below

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Greenfield: Could Foley's follies hurt the GOP? WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Well, it's October, so -- surprise! The most politically explosive writing to hit Washington last week wasn't what's in Bob Woodward's pages. It was those alleged e-mails between Mark Foley and at least a couple of congressional pages and what the House Republican leadership did or didn't do back last fall. If you want one clue about the political fallout from all this, you can look back more than 20 years ago. In 1983, the House Ethics Committee revealed that two House members had been sexually involved with pages: liberal Massachusetts Democrat Gerry Studds and conservative Illinois Republican Daniel Crane. Crane was involved with a female, Studds a male; both pages were over the legal age of consent. Both Studds and Crane were censured by the House, but their responses -- and their political fates -- were very different. Crane was repentant; tearfully apologized to his wife and family, asked for forgiveness. As the rules require, he stood in the well of the House to receive his censure and faced his colleagues. By contrast, Studds was unrepentant. He said the relationship was legal and consensual, talked about the difficulties of being a gay man in America, and when the House censured him, he turned his back on his colleagues, as if to reject their censure. The next year, Crane, who had been an outspoken advocate of "family values," was soundly defeated by voters in his conservative district. Studds was re-elected handily, and served in the House for more than a dozen years, until his retirement. What's the relevance? Well, consider the role of social conservatives, like those who attended the recent Family Research Council gathering in Washington. They fill the ranks of GOP turnout operations at election time. Some, like James Dobson of "Focus on the Family," have already expressed disappointment in how Republicans have treated their priorities, like gay marriage and abortion. As the earlier scandal shows, such conservatives are particularly likely to punish sexual misbehavior. And if they conclude that top Republican leaders did not pursue such behavior when they learned of it, the political consequences -- diminished enthusiasm, lower turnouts -- could be severe. The specifics of this issue are entangled in dispute: Were the earlier, alleged sexually explicit communications leaked with a political agenda in mind? Did the leadership see only the less explicit communications? But the campaign season does not deal well with subtleties. If this story ends up convincing social conservatives that the Republican Party has let them down, a lot of the calculations about what will happen in November go right out the window Source

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Why the hell are sexual predators being elected into office. Where are the background checks, and psychological exams? If we did that, I don't think half of our elected officials would be in office.

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Originally posted by Temperate Why the hell are sexual predators being elected into office. Where are the background checks, and psychological exams? If we did that, I don't think half of our elected officials would be in office.

Are you joking? Of all the places to start having background checks and pysch exams, politicians aren't near the top of my list. These people have less private exposure to children than most Americans.

Some things you just can't prevent because people have no prior record of this sort of behavior. The only way you'd even come close to dealing with this behavior with more certainty is if we lived in 1984.

BTW, these guys have pretty thorough background checks already. It's called their opponents, which is a lot more scrutiny than teachers or doctors receive.

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Watch these picturary retards bang their fuckin' skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom,
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I'm NOT defending Foley.

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Paging Mr. Hastert October 3, 2006; Page A26 Florida Republican Mark Foley's sexually explicit emails to a Congressional page certainly warranted his resignation from the House, and they may well merit prosecution. But this being five weeks from an election, the GOP House leadership is also being assailed for not having come down more strongly on a gay Congressman for showing a more than friendly interest in underage boys. That's a different issue altogether. At least this seems to be the essence of the Democratic and media charge against Speaker Dennis Hastert, who admits his office was told months ago about a friendly, non-explicit 2005 email exchange between Mr. Foley and another page. In that exchange, Mr. Foley had asked the teenager "how old are you now" and requested "an email pic." In our admittedly traditional view, this was odd and suspect behavior, especially because Mr. Foley was well known as a homosexual even if he declined to publicly acknowledge it. And Mr. Hastert was informed that fellow Illinois Republican John Shimkus -- who oversees the page program as part of a six-member board -- spoke privately with Mr. Foley, who explained that the email was innocent. What next was Mr. Hastert supposed to do with an elected Congressman? Assume that Mr. Foley was a potential sexual predator and bar him from having any private communication with pages? Refer him to the Ethics Committee? In retrospect, barring contact with pages would have been wise. But in today's politically correct culture, it's easy to understand how senior Republicans might well have decided they had no grounds to doubt Mr. Foley merely because he was gay and a little too friendly in emails. Some of those liberals now shouting the loudest for Mr. Hastert's head are the same voices who tell us that the larger society must be tolerant of private lifestyle choices, and certainly must never leap to conclusions about gay men and young boys. Are these Democratic critics of Mr. Hastert saying that they now have more sympathy for the Boy Scouts' decision to ban gay scoutmasters? Where's Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi on that one? Mr. Foley's explicit emails -- which were sent to a former page who had returned home -- clearly crossed the line into "vile and repulsive," as Mr. Hastert put it yesterday. And the Floridian has now resigned in disgrace and is being criminally investigated. This is harsher treatment than was meted out in the past to some Members of Congress who crossed another line and actually had sexual relations with underage pages. Democrat Gerry Studds of Massachusetts was censured in 1983 for seducing a male teenage page, but remained in the House for another 13 years and retired, according to the Boston Globe, with a rich pension. Mr. Foley lied to many people over the years, most notably to himself. It's one of those human mysteries that someone so prominent, and so active as a spokesman against sexual predators, would send emails that he knew would destroy his career if they became public. That kind of psychoanalysis is above our pay grade. Yes, Mr. Hastert and his staff should have done more to quarantine Mr. Foley from male pages after the first email came to light. But if that's the standard, we should all admit we are returning to a rule of conduct that our cultural elite long ago abandoned as intolerant.

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Originally posted by Shakka I'm NOT defending Foley.

The reason they're attacking him is because it shows the Republicans as hypocrites, not because they have an issue with his orientation.

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Here's American Gladiators, here is 56 channels of it,
Watch these picturary retards bang their fuckin' skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom,
Here you go America you are free to do as we tell you
We want your soul
Your cash, your house, your phone, your cash, your house, your life" -Adam Freeland - We Want Your Soul