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Fir3start3r
Armin Acolyte



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Thumbs up Mohammed cartoon lawsuit beheaded

...and rightly so...

Freedom of Speech + 1

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Danish cartoon lawsuit rejected
POSTED: 7:19 a.m. EDT, October 26, 2006

COPENHAGEN, Denmark (AP) -- A Danish court on Thursday dismissed a lawsuit filed by Muslim organizations against the newspaper that first published the Prophet Mohammed cartoons that touched off protests in the Islamic world.

The City Court in Aarhus said it could not be ruled out that some Muslims had been offended by the 12 drawings printed in Jyllands-Posten, but said there was no reason to assume that the cartoons were meant to "belittle Muslims."

The newspaper published the cartoons on September 30, 2005 with a text saying it was challenging a perceived self-censorship among artists afraid to offend Islam.

The caricatures were reprinted in European papers in January and February, fueling a fury of protests in the Islamic world. Some turned violent, with protesters killed in Libya and Afghanistan and several European embassies attacked.

Islamic law forbids any depiction of the prophet, even positive ones, to prevent idolatry.

"It cannot be ruled out that the drawings have offended some Muslims' honor, but there is no basis to assume that the drawings are, or were conceived as, insulting or that the purpose of the drawings was to present opinions that can belittle Muslims," the court said.

The seven Muslim groups filed the defamation lawsuit against the paper in March, after Denmark's top prosecutor declined to press criminal charges, saying the drawings did not violate laws against racism or blasphemy.

The plaintiffs, who claimed to have the backing of 20 more Islamic organizations in the Scandinavian country, had sought $16,860 in damages from Jyllands-Posten Editor in Chief Carsten Juste and Culture Editor Flemming Rose, who supervised the cartoon project.

The lawsuit said the cartoons depict Mohammed "as belligerent, oppressing women, criminal, crazy and unintelligent, and a connection is made between the Prophet and war and terror."

It said the drawings were published "solely to provoke and mock not only the Prophet Mohammed but also the Muslim population."

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Q5echo
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+1

a more fundamental question is, why is this even news? pathetic.

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star-traveller
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I don't agree that this has nothing to do with Freedom of Speech.
As somebody has noticed in another thread, with Freedom comes responsibilities. I guess Danish press doesn't have any clue what is it. They are who pathetic.

Mosque Punishes Leading Cleric in Australia

Could you tell me the difference between these 2 stories ?

It's not a Freedom of Speech, it's Freedom of Bullshit.

Last edited by star-traveller on Oct-27-2006 at 07:45

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Mosque Punishes Leading Cleric in Australia

Could you tell me the difference between these 2 stories ?

The biggest difference, as of now, is that he was suspended by the Australian Lebanese Muslim Association from preaching. The government didn't do anything to him at all, except that some said the punishment was too lenient. Obviously, if they do something further, then we'll be having a different discussion.


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The biggest difference, as of now, is that he was suspended by the Australian Lebanese Muslim Association from preaching. The government didn't do anything to him at all, except that some said the punishment was too lenient. Obviously, if they do something further, then we'll be having a different discussion.


What is this ?

quote:

The comments by the cleric, Sheik Taj el-Din Hamid Hilaly, the mufti of Australia’s biggest mosque, outraged many Muslims and other Australians and prompted calls for his firing and deportation.


It's another double standard of the Western policy.

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quote:
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What is this ?



It's another double standard of the Western policy.

The same thing happened in Denmark. There were government officials who condemned it. In neither case was anything done to him by the government.

Also, you forgot to bold Muslims and, as that's a combined subject.


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quote:
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What is this ?


that's a bunch of decent people.

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that's a bunch of decent people.


Don't get the point.

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Don't get the point.


the Muslims and other Aussies that are propmting calls for his resignation and deportation. they are decent people who have every right to call for the resignation and deportation of whoever the hell they like. their speech is as protected and guaranteed as any radical cleric.

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Well, it was basically an endorsement from the highest muslim official in the country using his influence too essentially say, that if women get raped from not wearing a hajib and wrists-to-ankle length clothing, then its not the fault of men.

He apologised of course, saying he was out of context but to be frank I'm not buying it.

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Well, it was basically an endorsement from the highest muslim official in the country using his influence too essentially say, that if women get raped from not wearing a hajib and wrists-to-ankle length clothing, then its not the fault of men.

He apologised of course, saying he was out of context but to be frank I'm not buying it.


If it's Freedom of Speech, why should he have apologised anyway ?

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If it's Freedom of Speech, why should he have apologised anyway ?


because he knows how f**ked up he sounded?

because socially, free speech can be a metaphor for acting like an idiot?

what are the principles governing free speech in Australia? i really don't know other than to compare them to mine.

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