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AKA:STEVE QUADRA



Registered: Feb 2004
Location: A State of Trance
progressive trance basslines help

so I cant seem to get that progressive tracne bassline going right. I know that there must be some sidechaining involved but I seem to just get that "umpa umpa" style bassline when I do this. The progressive style basslines seem to have less of the "umpa umpa". any help would be nice.

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Eldritch
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Registered: Nov 2005
Location: Sweden

Use long bass notes on every kick. Like this:
K K K K
B-->B-->B-->B-->

Then use sidechaining on it.

Old Post Oct-29-2006 10:51  Sweden
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Registered: Feb 2004
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k thanks I try it out

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Aesthetic
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Location: somewhere between the melody and the pads

Also, reduce the amount it side chains, rather than going all the way to 0, maybe 50%.. that will get rid of the "oompa oompa" a bit =)


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Ugh.

Fuck sidechained basslines already. It's passé to even be saying that they're passé. Do a real bassline and don't be lazy.


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Mr.Mystery
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Poor patterns cannot be improved with any amount of sidechaining. Layer your bass and try some different patterns, it's not really rocket science.


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mysticalninja
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Registered: May 2005
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if im not doing an offbeat bass, (gay) its almost always sidechained. sidechained bass is just always fatter.

and they dont always have to be single long note bass's.. listen to mine [[ LINK REMOVED ]]


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thoughtlessjex
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Registered: May 2004
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if im not doing an offbeat bass, (gay) its almost always sidechained. sidechained bass is just always fatter.

and they dont always have to be single long note bass's.. listen to mine [[ LINK REMOVED ]]

It's not fatter. It's louder as long as the kick isn't playing. A fatter bass is just one with more harmonics filled in at the right ratios.

Your bass doesn't even sound sidechained. There's never any chance for any artifacts to emerge because the bass never plays when the kick is playing. And the tail ends don't count. You could just as easily cut them before the kick plays and turn the release to 0. You'd be better off just compressing the bass on its own.


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mysticalninja
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well it is sidechained thats why the kick thumps so much. and theres a bass note during every kick, listen to it harder. you probably hear sidechained bass all the time and dont even reconize it because its not the classic sidechain bass sound.


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substorm
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Registered: Jun 2005
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You will get much more driving, proggy and fatter basslines by layering!

Sidechaining is so "Eric Prydz", just sounds lazy!


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mysticalninja
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when i think sidechaining i think gabriel & dresden, and all the new electro/house prog all the djs play today.. like ferry corsten etc.


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Registered: Feb 2004
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I was thinking more like Markus Schulz bass's...cause thats what I'm after.

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