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montana
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: södertälje. sweden

The hype of unreleased tracks.

it's something that i wondered about. is the hype to some unreleased tracks really justified or is it just the context that they are in that makes them more desirable than others. and once they are released, what do you think when it turns out they we're only good in that particular set?

i know i'm going to get all the oakey99essentialmixtour-whores & plenty others when i say the following.

Oakey, Rojam #9, there is nothing special about this track, it's a good track, but that it. infact it sounds like something ATB would have produced if he wasn't so shit.

Judge Jules, Portrush #21. bog standard track, good stuff still, this one also sounds very much like ATB (or maybe more like York) to be honest.

Tiesto, Dutch Dimension #1. yeah, this one i don't see how it became hyped at all. i don't even consider this one good.

Stage One (Orkidea Remix), this was so hyped that once you got orkideas album you had to first check out unity & then this. it's a good version yes, good enough to have granted all that hype, no. it suffered of the same thing that most remixes of stage one had, it sounded like the seperation mix plus the producers own sounds and touch to it.

Sound Of Goodbye (Dark Matter Remix), wow. just wow, i never realized how almighty the ID&T radio compressor was. when i heard this on it's own, i actually thought, hmm, this wasn't as good as i remembered it. It sounded great in armin's 7hour set, then i remembered the context it was in, it was smoothly mixed, it had like a beefy compression on it and it was pitched up a bit, and all sorts of factors. and this doesn't just apply to this track, it applies to several other tracks.

so ye, any other tracks that you people think doesn't justify the hype or was let down by how dull the track sounded once you heard it on it's own?

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Nov-14-2006 17:06 Syria

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Sykonee
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Vancouver, Canada

Re: The hype of unreleased tracks.

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Originally posted by montana
then i remembered the context it was in, it was smoothly mixed, it had like a beefy compression on it and it was pitched up a bit, and all sorts of factors. and this doesn't just apply to this track, it applies to several other tracks.

That's about it right there. Unreleased tracks, especially when played by major deities, er, trance superstar DJs, take on an almost mystical aura due to the context of a set they are played in. In fact, that can be said for several tracks IN GENERAL. The rarity of these unreleased ones (re: can only find it on set rips, and never in a full, un-mixed version) just makes them that much more unique, as they don't get played out by every copycat DJ.

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Nov-14-2006 17:24 Canada

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bas
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Here I Am Baby

With unreleased tracks comes a certain sense of ownership and pride, "I have it and you don't" kind of thing. I think it's like that with any track, the desire to have it first before anyone else to give one a kind of status. Usually, though, once the track is released the magic is gone

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RJT
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Registered: Oct 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by dj_bas
Once the track is released the magic is gone

Indeed.

I tried hard to think of one track that I had worked to get over the years that was a hyped up, unreleased tune, and didn't get stale to me within a couple weeks of finally getting it. I couldn't

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KilldaDJ
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: tranceaddict wants to know your location

i agree with the ID&T compressor and various effects on the tracks when played live, for instance when marco v dropped the cj stone remix of born slippy @ mystryland 2001(?), amazing atmosphere, the copy i got on CD doesnt sound so full, the string/pad breakdown is weaker etc (obvious EQ/filter/compressor bla bla bla)

oh and another one : armins remix of seven cities (the ASOT liverip was really good), when the release came, that was a bit overhyped, but yeh its all in the past now.

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Futureshock
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Registered: Oct 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by dj_bas
With unreleased tracks comes a certain sense of ownership and pride, "I have it and you don't" kind of thing. I think it's like that with any track, the desire to have it first before anyone else to give one a kind of status. Usually, though, once the track is released the magic is gone

Absolutely, and it's even worse with unknown IDs, imo. There's a number of tracks I have in mixes that I've still not ID'd after five years despite numerous efforts and I just know that if I ID'd them today, I'd start to forget about them.

Nov-14-2006 20:30 Ireland

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Rainborn
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Registered: Aug 2005
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden

Whenever one of the guys from SHM spins a track, I'm like: Fuck that shit. If it was to be spun by someone else, say... Digweed, then I'd probably like it.

PS: This only goes for SHM, as far as I know. I really don't like them... Can't help it.

Nov-14-2006 20:33 Sweden

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DJ Mikey Mike
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quote:
Originally posted by Rainborn
Whenever one of the guys from SHM spins a track, I'm like: Fuck that shit. If it was to be spun by someone else, say... Digweed, then I'd probably like it.

PS: This only goes for SHM, as far as I know. I really don't like them... Can't help it.

What a fucking pathetic attitude to have. It's vermin like you that are the real cancer on the 'scene,' and unfortunatly for the rest of us, you do not belong to a minority.