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Originally posted by PsyTiax Let's do this one by one : Firstly, hello to everyone, I just discovered this forum a couple of days ago by googling for some tutorials, have read a few threads, and now here I am with my first post ! Secondly, yes, I used the search function, but as far as I read, there doesn't seems to be any threads that comes only close to my noobishness... So here's my question, I intend to begin creating PsyTrance/Goa music, I just love the genre, the spirit, and the parties, so I thought that I could try to get a bit closer to this world by beggining to create Goa tracks. The "goal" is not to go pro or anything like that, it's just to enjoy myself by creating music, I don't care if I do basic stuff as long as I enjoy myself ! The fact is, before that, I never trully wondered how the artist where creating their music, which leaves me now in a totally new world (Well, that's not exactly true, I used Techno Ejay 4 to create EXTREMELY basic stuff, but I just didn't liked it, it wasn't music making for me, it felt like a was doing a lego construction, if you know what I mean...), a world where like 90% of the terms are not fully understood... I began to study music a bit, how to read a music sheet, the tempo, etc (basid stuff ATM), and I intend to buy a low end keyboard (I played piano for a while, ûber basic stuff, that's it) with a USB output in a couple of days, as it's one of the few things I'm sure that will be needed... I've already checked Reason 3.0 and Ableton Live, but I really don't know which one would be the best for a begginer, and anyway I'll try to master my keyboard first That's why I was wondering if you guys could maybe give me a few advice, maybe a link to a tutorial for using keyboard + software? I read the software docs, but for the moment I just feel like doing things without understanding them... Is this normal ? Or is there a better way to start ? Thanks alot for you time !

Welcome to TA. What you want to do is post this in the music production forum. They will be able to guide you in the right direction and answer any question you may have.

Good Luck.

Rock On,

Mike

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Originally posted by Michael May Welcome to TA. What you want to do is post this in the music production forum. They will be able to guide you in the right direction and answer any question you may have. Good Luck. Rock On, Mike

Sorry. The Production Studio.

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Damnit, I knew I would miss my first steps

...now I understand why all the newbies threads of this forum looked so obscure to me

Thanks, I'll post it there !

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You'll have a lot more fun if you do things and understand them. The range of "things you can do" expands dramatically as your understanding increases, which leads to more fun, I think.

I'll give you the advice I gave to someone else:

1. Learn at least the very basics of music theory: writing in key, major and minor scales, intervals, chords, progressions.

[Sounds like you've already done that.]

2. Learn what the settings of a synth do to a sound by reading about the theory of synthesis, reading practical "how to" guides, and most importantly experimenting a bunch with your own synths. Learn about subtractive synthesis first (it's probably the easiest to understand and the most commonly used for trance), and then start in on FM, additive, wavetable, and granular synthesis. The links in the tutorial sticky are a great start.

3. Learn about effects -- distortion, detuning, phasing, reverb, delay, vocoding, panning, EQ -- learn what each of them does to the sound itself, how it sounds to your ears, and how different settings affect them.

4. Listen! As you start to acquire knowledge and skills for production, listen closely to the tracks of your favorite producers and try to figure out what's "going on" in each part, the ways in which many different sounds are brought in or cut out progressively to make a song, and the way those individual sounds change over time. If you think you might know how a certain sound or effect is being made, then try to copy it. This isn't so you can slavishly imitate the "hot sound" of the moment and use it in all of your tracks -- that's dumb. The purpose of it is to give yourself some practical knowledge, one more tool in your "kit" for when you build your own songs.

Thanks alot, that's already alot of help !

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hey, if you don't know which program (reason or abelton) is better for a beginner it's because you don't have any experience with eitehr of them. this is the best time to establish good habits and pick the better sequencer that will aid you in the long run. so pick one that you like and feel comfortable with (i suggest ableton, it will be better in the long run, especially if you wanna encorporate djing/live elements) and learn it. the only way to do that is to read the tutorials (alive has really good built in tutorials) and then mess with the program and experiment. over time, if you are consistent with "practicing" your program, certain concepts will click. this is based upon time and the amount of effort you put into learning your software, dont think you can learn it all from reading online tutorials and other peoples experiances, you have to do it yourself. it's a hands on kind of thing...practice practice practice...so with that in mind, expect to be practcing for many years before you start getting any semi good results. good luck, and may the force be with you.

Hey,

I'm also a psy listener & producer living in switzerland..I would advise starting out with a relatively easy program to get into like FL studio..Once you get some knowledge about music production, be patient it takes time, you can move on to a sequencer like cubase which will give you more possibilities..

As people have already said it takes a lot of practice and you gradually improve your skills over time, but it can also help if you have someone show you the basics already..

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Originally posted by s-cube I would advise starting out with a relatively easy program to get into like FL studio..

Just to be sure, FL studio = Fruity Loops ?

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Originally posted by s-cube but it can also help if you have someone show you the basics already..

I have met a really nice guy at a psytrance party this saturday, asked him a few questions about how to get started... Well, he was actually so nice that he told me that I could drop by his studio so he'll show me the basics... I feel really lucky to have met him, but before I'll see him again (maybe next week), I'd like to try to learn a maximum of basic stuff, so he won't waste his time telling me things I could have easily learnt on my own...

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I have a new question, would the Hercule DJ Console MK2 be a plus to start (the fact is, I can have it for 150 Euros) ?

Any feedback?

http://www.zzounds.com/item--HERDJCONSOLEMKII

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Originally posted by PsyTiax I have a new question, would the Hercule DJ Console MK2 be a plus to start (the fact is, I can have it for 150 Euros) ? Any feedback? http://www.zzounds.com/item--HERDJCONSOLEMKII

That has nothing to do with production, it's a DJ tool.

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