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DJRecess
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Glasgow
Upgrade DJm600 - 800 - pointless if no Midi?

Hey folks.

So - I'm looking for ways to deduct tax. I've already bought 2 CDJ1000's - and I'm now looking at the DJM800 as the next big purchase. (Better I get it than the tax-man).

However, though the sound processing and new on-board effects have improved compared to my current DJM 600 - as I don't use anything like Ableton or Traktor as input devices in the mix - I wonder how much I'd get out of it.

Sure, I can't wait to use the phaser effect etc - but apart from being able to hook up my 1000's digitally, and it looking WAAAAAAY sweeter than the 600 - is it really worh forking out £1,100 (currently equivalent of $2,100) for one?

Thanks in advance.


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ZeJayMan
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Negative!


You are better getting a Xone 92 for that sort of money, you'll notice a massive difference in sound quality and the filters make me feel all lightheaded.


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ZeJayMan
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Plus you can always buy a EFX-1000 or 500.


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quote:
Originally posted by ZeJayMan
Negative!


You are better getting a Xone 92 for that sort of money, you'll notice a massive difference in sound quality and the filters make me feel all lightheaded.


couldnt agree more, allen and heath filters are sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet


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Go Pio if you like your effects and want a 100% digital setup. There is a huge amount of versatility in the Pio 800 and CDJ1000 combo.

Don't let the A&H crew sway you - go Pio. Sound quality is supposed to be just as awesome on the 800 as the 92.

Watch this flash presentation, it's a great demo of the 800.

http://www.decks.co.uk/products/mixers/pioneer/djm800

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DJRecess
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Hey,

Thanks (so far) to those who've replied.

I used the 800 once when doing research for my book, and loved it. (though I didn't get the chance to use the A+H stuff, so can't really compare). I guess my question is really just one of justification - as I don't think I'll ever go anywhere near the MIDI stuff on it - I figure I was looking for someone to say 'not a problem, it's 10000 times better than the 600'

When, I know from using it that it's better than the 600 - but will I be paying all that money for features (Midi control) I'll never use...

You should see me trying to buy a new pair of jeans... I'm even worse than this.

I'll keep thinking...


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ZeJayMan
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Registered: Aug 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by Jarvmeister
Go Pio if you like your effects and want a 100% digital setup. There is a huge amount of versatility in the Pio 800 and CDJ1000 combo.

Don't let the A&H crew sway you - go Pio. Sound quality is supposed to be just as awesome on the 800 as the 92.

Watch this flash presentation, it's a great demo of the 800.

http://www.decks.co.uk/products/mixers/pioneer/djm800

Jarv



Don't Let those showboating pioneer bastard get you! Go A&H!

Hahaha , i have to say, If i had all the money in the world, i'd buy the Xone 3D, if i had 1000 quid and scratching was an important part of my set, i'd go for the Pio 800. If don't scratch much, but want the amazing warm quality sound and superb filters, go for A&H Xone 92.


I'm trying to think of a car comparison, hmm, get back to me on that.

Other competitors, Rane Empath, Vestax PMC-37 Pro.


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I've played most of my recent shows on an 800, and it sounds smooth as hell. The sound quality is much better than the 600, and the effects are pimp. I did a show a couple weeks ago on a zone 92 and it sounded like shite to me...no smoothness to the mixes at all, you could tell when I brought in the tracks, real poor sound quality compared to the 800. Those Allen and Heath mixers are made for analog stuff. Records sound OK on them, but digital media lacks quite a bit on them. The 800 is made for those pioneer CDJs, so that is what I would go with if I were you. I hated that zone 92 and I'll never play on one again.


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quote:
Originally posted by Aaron Lee
I've played most of my recent shows on an 800, and it sounds smooth as hell. The sound quality is much better than the 600, and the effects are pimp. I did a show a couple weeks ago on a zone 92 and it sounded like shite to me...no smoothness to the mixes at all, you could tell when I brought in the tracks, real poor sound quality compared to the 800. Those Allen and Heath mixers are made for analog stuff. Records sound OK on them, but digital media lacks quite a bit on them. The 800 is made for those pioneer CDJs, so that is what I would go with if I were you. I hated that zone 92 and I'll never play on one again.






The Xone 92 is one of the best mixers available to buy on the market today. The sounds quality is unrivaled in my opinion and the build quality and filters speak for themselves. In reference to the original poster, the fact that you have two CDJ's makes this a tough decision, the Pioneer DJM 800 is obviously all digital and would suit the CDJ's, but in that case you might as well buy a much cheaper digital option. (Especially if you're mixing exclusively from CDJ's and not TT's.) Namely the DJM400.


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quote:
Originally posted by ZeJayMan


The Xone 92 is one of the best mixers available to buy on the market today. The sounds quality is unrivaled in my opinion and the build quality and filters speak for themselves. In reference to the original poster, the fact that you have two CDJ's makes this a tough decision, the Pioneer DJM 800 is obviously all digital and would suit the CDJ's, but in that case you might as well buy a much cheaper digital option. (Especially if you're mixing exclusively from CDJ's and not TT's.) Namely the DJM400.


the djm400 doesnt have digital ins like the djm800.

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DJRecess
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Hey,

Thanks to everyone for their replies so far (even if it did get off track and became a Pioneer V A&H instead of 600 v 800 thing).

Just to clear one thing up, I'm by no means only using the CDJ1000's - got a nice pair of 1210's that have been keeping me smiling for ten years - it's just that I finally came out of the technological dark ages after researching the 1000's for the book - realising that there's nothing wrong with including CDJ's as part of a DJ setup. As seen below:



So - in other words - I'm looking for something that'll sound great regardless of what goes into it - but isn't going to be more than I actually use - hence the original post of 'is it worth it if I don't use the MIDI inputs'.

And thanks for the offer ******** - but as this is about tax-deduction, I don't know how well that would work out for me. I guess I'll wait, see how many books I sell, and therefore how much tax I need to pay - and then make my decision about moving up from the 600.

I'm a Pioneer kinda guy though - always have been - so until I get a chance to demo the A&H - my choice is to either stick with the 600 - or upgrade to the 800 - nothing else comes to mind. Maybe I am still in the dark ages...


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ZeJayMan
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quote:
Originally posted by nutsan
the djm400 doesnt have digital ins like the djm800.


Ah fuck. I was so sure that it had the digital ins.


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