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shaolin_Z
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Israeli troops open fire on women outside mosque

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Israeli troops open fire on women outside mosque

Staff and agencies
Friday November 3, 2006
Guardian Unlimited

Two Palestinian women were killed and another 10 were reported wounded when Israeli forces today opened fire on a group preparing to act as a human shield for militants in a Gaza mosque.

Dozens of women were gathering outside the mosque in Beit Hanoun in the northern Gaza Strip this morning after an appeal on a local radio station. More than 30 gunmen had taken refuge in the building after the Israeli army began its largest Gaza offensive in months in an attempt to stop militants launching rocket attacks on nearby Jewish settlements over the border.

Television pictures showed at least 50 women making their way along a pavement when shots could be heard ringing out. They started to flee in terror and at least two women were left lying on the ground.

Witnesses said two women, both aged about 40, were killed, and 10 others were wounded. The Israeli army said troops spotted two militants hiding in the crowd of women and opened fire.

A large group of women protesters went on to gather outside the mosque. In the resulting confusion all the militants managed to escape, some reportedly wearing robes supplied by the women.

A 22-year-old Palestinian man was also killed in the northern town, which troops seized on Wednesday. At least 23 Palestinians, most of them militants, have been killed and 155 wounded since the offensive began, according to local health officials.

Israeli tanks and armoured personnel carriers surrounded the mosque when militants took refuge there. Overnight, the two sides exchanged fire. Troops also threw stun and smoke grenades into the mosque to pressure the gunmen to surrender. Witnesses said an Israeli army bulldozer knocked down an outer wall of the mosque, causing the ceiling to collapse.

The Israeli army said the gunmen inside the mosque were able to take advantage of the women's demonstration to escape because there weren't enough infantrymen to block the protesters from approaching the building, and troops didn't want to shoot into the crowd.

However, live ammunition was fired in the course of the demonstration, wounding a Palestinian cameraman and a number of women. Hospital officials reported that many of the women were shot in the foot.

The Palestinian prime minister, Ismail Haniyeh, of Hamas "saluted the women of Palestine ... who led the protest to break the siege of Beit Hanoun". He urged the UN secretary general, Kofi Annan, to witness first-hand "the massacres of the Palestinian people", and appealed to the Arab world to "stop the ongoing bloodshed".

A spokesman for Hamas militants said 32 gunmen who had taken cover in the mosque escaped with the help of the women.

Residents said Beit Hanoun, a town of 30,000 people, was effectively under full Israeli control, with a curfew imposed.

Loudspeakers across Gaza called on people to come to demonstrations after Friday prayers to express solidarity with Beit Hanoun. By late morning, two rallies were already in progress in Beit Hanoun, and militants in the crowds were firing at soldiers, the Israeli army said.

The Israeli army said it targeted Beit Hanoun because it was a major site for launching rocket attacks. But Israeli officials have said the takeover of Beit Hanoun was expected to last only a few days and did not signal the start of a wider military offensive in Gaza.

Militants, however, continued to fire rockets at Israeli border communities. Two Israelis were slightly wounded and a house was damaged in the latest attacks.

In a separate operation last night, an Israeli air strike on a car in Gaza City killed three Hamas fighters, including a local militant commander, witnesses said. An Israeli army spokeswoman confirmed the strike.


Source: Guardian


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venomX
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Why did you delete that other thread ?


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shaolin_Z
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Why did you delete that other thread ?


The one titled "Disturbing Terror Focus Group Video"? Well, because I wasn't sure about the authenticity of the video, and I don't think most people here care about the US becoming a dictatorship/police state.


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i saw it on bbc news yesterday
what a shame


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whats even more sad is that this happens more than its reported.


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very typical of the israeli army :/

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what a low life thing to do .. shame


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what a low life thing to do .. shame


It is Purple.

I mean, how you could use two women as shields? What a shitty fuckin world we live in. On that note..kind of reminds me the same thing that happend in Lebanon this past summer, where your heros used thier own people as sheilds. They are to weak to face the real battle, so the only way they can win the minds of people like you and shaolin, is by making you feel sorry for them.

Why dont you two get a fuckin clue, honestly?

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Originally posted by Kapedan

I mean, how you could use two women as shields? What a shitty fuckin world we live in. On that note..kind of reminds me the same thing that happend in Lebanon this past summer, where your heros used thier own people as sheilds. They are to weak to face the real battle, so the only way they can win the minds of people like you and shaolin, is by making you feel sorry for them.

Why dont you two get a fuckin clue, honestly?



:rolleye: It is you that has to get a fuckin clue here not them.

The IDF terrorists will always use the same lies as an excuse to attack the civillians.

Isreal shouldnt be surprised at all if they get attacked by Hamas tomorrow.It is like they are asking for it.


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Originally posted by shaolin_Z

quote:
Originally posted by venomX
It's funny how there's another thread with exactly the same story viewed from a different angle. So different that you thought it was a different story . Just remarking on the fact.


Yeah, it's the pro-Israeli propaganda we get in North America.


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Originally posted by Q5echo
what? like we're devoid of any anti-Israeli propaganda here in North Amerikkka? c'mon


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Originally posted by shaolin_Z
That's a logical implication of having pro-Israeli media.


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Originally posted by Q5echo
well thats just childish if that truly is the implication.

if that is the case how does that logic explain European media, which is conversly devoid of any pro-Israeli propaganda.


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Plain and simple; Europe is not America. The US is the one with a unique relationship with the state of Israel with utter disregard for moral and ethical concerns. The US gives unilateral support to Israel, not Europe. It doesn't really matter a whole lot what people in Europe think. In the US that's certainly not the case, and that relationship between the US and Israel can't be maintained without supressing the truth about the reality of the situation here and rationlizing it with propaganda.


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Yoepus
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Great tactic.

Use your women (and children) as human shields to protect your warriors.
Then when they die defending them, cry out to the world how inhumane it is to have your women killed


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Two Palestinian women were killed and another 10 were reported wounded when Israeli forces today opened fire on a group preparing to act as a human shield for militants in a Gaza mosque.


Under the Geneva Conventions any protected site that is used for anything other what it is intended for loses its protected status, this includes, schools, hospitals, and places of worship.

Also human shields in the eyes of the law do not mean protected. If they are harboring/protecting the enemy they also become justifiable targets.


While the news report is a tradegy for the loss of life, the shootings are legal.

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