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Old Post Dec-07-2006 16:38  United States
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I think they've got a point. I'm white and didn't come from a wealthy home and went to a shitty public school up until I was 18, yet I wasn't eligible to apply for certain scholarships because I wasn't a minority.

The method is a bit tactless, but it's obviously generating some debate and discussion, which is their intention.


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Old Post Dec-07-2006 16:52  United States
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If it's as cut and dry as the post sounds, I say why not? If it's OK to discriminate based on race, why is it so hard to swallow something just because it flies in the face of political correctness? This should spark an interesting debate, though it will be a debate that caucasians will have a hard time "winning."

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Why is it society can kowtow to all minorities but as soon as anything 'white' appears, images of KKK start flashing up everywhere?

Multiculturalism just divides us further when we all bleed red anyways.

I'm not necessarily agreeing with an only white scholarship going forward, but like others have said, at least this puts this whole 'Multiculturalism' under a spotlight for once.


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Old Post Dec-07-2006 17:32  Canada
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This is retarded. I really hate when people get scholarships because of their ethnicity or color of their skin.

Might as well seperate ourselves even more.


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This is retarded. I really hate when people get scholarships because of their ethnicity or color of their skin.

Might as well seperate ourselves even more.


I think that's exactly the point of the debate, and exactly why I said I wouldn't have a problem with it. But in agreement with you, I think we'd all be better off if scholarships based on ethnicity were non-existent (unless they are provided by a private party that wants to use their money in whatever bigotted way they choose).

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(unless they are provided by a private party that wants to use their money in whatever bigotted way they choose).

That's what's happening here.


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That's what's happening here.


Well, above all, I believe that private parties should be able to spend their wealth as they see fit. PC aside, it is their property to dispose of as they choose, provided they are not infringing upon anyone else's rights. I thought it was the university that was offering the "white only" scholarship. I did not read very far into the links, however.

Edit: Okay, that was in the first sentence and I didn't pick up on it at first. Yeah, it's stupid and should cause a stir, but if there are publicly funded scholarships for minorities, I hardly see where one can complain when a privately funded group wants to fund a scholarship for a non-minority.

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Scolarships should be based on two things only- ability and economic circumstances, that way you only get people who can do things and people who wouldnt otherwise have an financial chance to do things at university even though they have the talent.

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If scholarships where race blind there would still be a disproportionate amount going to minorities because they are the ones that conform the lower echelons of socio-economic status. And seriously this whole, 'omg its so unfair to whites' thing is presupposing that whites are at the same unprivileged level that minorities are. It's the whole illusion the we actually live in a meritocracy when we don't. I do agree that the scholarships should be race blind, but even at that they will still keep going to minorities because minorities are poorer in the US.


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If scholarships where race blind there would still be a disproportionate amount going to minorities because they are the ones that conform the lower echelons of socio-economic status.


That's fine and may be true, but it's not the issue here.

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And seriously this whole, 'omg its so unfair to whites' thing is presupposing that whites are at the same unprivileged level that minorities are.


Who said that? In that sentence you have managed to comingle economic status and race when the point of the argument was to isolate the two issues and toss out the race-based portion.

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I do agree that the scholarships should be race blind, but even at that they will still keep going to minorities because minorities are poorer in the US.


That's an incredibly broad generalization.

Old Post Dec-07-2006 22:20  United States
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quote:
Originally posted by venomX
If scholarships where race blind there would still be a disproportionate amount going to minorities because they are the ones that conform the lower echelons of socio-economic status. And seriously this whole, 'omg its so unfair to whites' thing is presupposing that whites are at the same unprivileged level that minorities are. It's the whole illusion the we actually live in a meritocracy when we don't. I do agree that the scholarships should be race blind, but even at that they will still keep going to minorities because minorities are poorer in the US.


In some areas whites ARE the minority though.


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