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MisterOpus1
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City
Democratic hypocricy

Quite honestly it pisses me off, otherwise I wouldn't be posting it. Two things have come up as of late that have really gotten under my skin. Two of the biggest issues that the Democratic platform was fueled under to take back Congress.

1. Corruption:

quote:
NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (AP) -- U.S. Rep. William Jefferson easily defeated his fellow Democratic opponent in a runoff election Saturday, despite an ongoing federal bribery investigation.

In complete but unofficial returns, Jefferson, Louisiana's first black congressman since Reconstruction, received 57 percent of the vote over state Rep. Karen Carter, who had 43 percent.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/12...e.ap/index.html


2. Cover-up:

quote:
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The head of the House Democrats' campaign committee, Rep. Rahm Emanuel, had heard of former Rep. Mark Foley's inappropriate e-mails to a former male page a year before they became public, a campaign committee aide told CNN.

Foley, a Republican, resigned after the scandal broke. House Speaker Dennis Hastert and other Republicans have suggested repeatedly that some Democrats knew about the e-mails earlier than they have acknowledged, but waited till midterm elections approached to bring up the issue.

Emanuel's campaign committee aide said Friday that the Illinois Democrat was informed in 2005, but never saw the correspondence and did not have enough information to raise concerns. The aide said Emanuel took "no action" because his knowledge was "cursory" and little more than "rumor."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/12...nuel/index.html



Now the repurcussions of these events will take care of themselves, to be certain. Jefferson will be the first Congressmen, the first Democratic Congressmen of this new Congress to get indicted, and rightfully so. How the nitwits in his district didn't see or understand the gravity of his situation and voted for him anyway is beyond my comprehension.

And Emanuel's dream of a Presidential bid, albeit a small chance in of itself, is completely toast. I hope more becomes of his hypocricy with this Foley ordeal, because he led us all to believe that he knew nothing about it. Now that we know he knew something about it and did nothing, the finger can rightfully be pointed directly at him and indirectly at the Democrats.

If you want to impress the people of this country and make us believe you are turning over a new leaf in Congress by creating much needed oversight and stopping the corruption, you do not start off like this. I know, it's politics and every politician is corrupt and slimy, but I will continue doing what I can to hold ALL Congressmen accountable for their actions.


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Fir3start3r
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Wow, that bites

Justice will be served I guess...


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MrSquirrel
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Registered: Aug 2003
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People continue to vote for people no matter how much evidence is shown them regarding how corrupt they are.

Emmanuel is a slimebag, but he represents a district in Chicago where 95% of the politicians are total slime and the people know it. The City of Chicago is controlled by one of the biggest of the corrupt political machines in the country.

Two party politics is such a corrupt mechanism at this point that it is disgusting. Neither of the two parties will EVER clean itself up and do the job they were elected to do.


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Q5echo
asymetrical scepticism



Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

DCCC chair Rahm Emanuel on "This Week" after the scandal broke on September. Below that, excerpts from pages 45-46 of the ethics committee's report.

quote:
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS (ABC NEWS)

(OC) All week long there have been suggestions by - on talk radio and by Republicans and their allies that this was perhaps a Democratic dirty trick. And I just want to ask you plainly, did you or your staff know anything...

REP RAHM EMANUEL (CHAIR DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE)

No.

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS (ABC NEWS)

(OC) About these e-mails or instant messages before they came out?

REP RAHM EMANUEL (CHAIR DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE)

George, never saw them. And I'm going to say one thing, let's go through the facts right here. . .


from the report:

quote:
Upon receiving the e-mails, Halliwell fowarded them to her boyfriend, Justin Field, who then worked for the House Democratic Caucus, and also to her boss, Mike Grisso, a registered lobbyist. Field was disturbed by the nature of the e-mails, and shortly after he received them, he shared them with his friend and colleague, Matt Miller, who was then the communications director for the Democratic Caucus. The two discussed the nature of the e-mails and possible actions. Miller believed that the e-mails were inappropriate, and suggested that they be given to the press. Miller testified that he considered providing the e-mails to the Committee on Standards or to the Page Board, but feared that "nothing would come" of such action. He says that he also considered providing them to law enforcement, but believed that the e-mails, though inappropriate, did not evidence the commission of a crime.

Miller testified that in approximately November 2005, he redacted Savoy's email address and Field's name from the top of a printed copy of the emails and faxed them to reporters that he knew at both the Miami Herald and the St. Petersburg Times. Miller said that later in November or in December, he also provided the emails to a reporter from Roll Call. Both Field and Miller testified that neither then Rep. Menendez, who was then the chairman of the Democratic Caucus, nor any other person in the office of the Democratic Caucus, was provided with the emails or was involved in the decision to provide them to the press. Miller testified that also during the fall of 2005, in part as a "gut check" regarding his impression of the emails, he provided the emails to the communications director of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee ("DCCC"). Miller testified that he was not aware of what actions his DCCC counterpart may have taken with respect to the emails, but he expected that he would share them with the press. Miller testified:


I think I game them to him not with any direct expectation, but with the understanding that [the DCCC communications director] is someone that talks to reporters all day. If there's something that I'm missing, maybe - maybe there's a way that he could get the - you know, that he could give them to a reporter; you know, in the course of talking to reporters that he might find a way. I didn't have any direct expectation, but in general.

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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

well William "Cold Cash" Jefferson is going back to Congress. thats awesome!

now it's up to Pelosi to do the right thing...ad naseum following "Mad" Jack Murtha and Hastings

Democraps. was there any doubt, people?

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Lebezniatnikov
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: DC

Two things have been brought up and ignored. The OP stated in one of the quotes that Emanuel never saw the messages and didn't act upon the information because it was "cursory" and most likely a "rumor". If anything, Dems should be mad that he didn't pursue this and break the scandal right away. Republicans would surely have been pissed at him for stirring the pot if he had.

Second, it was mentioned that the information was given to the DCCC communications chair... not Emanuel.

Maybe I'm missing something, or maybe there are connections being made purely out of wishful thinking.


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MisterOpus1
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City

Someone mentioned in another thread about the corruption of politics in Chicago and Illinois, if I remember right.

Looks like there might be something behind that, especially in reference to Emanuel.

quote:
Emanuel makes a point of airing peeve


Published November 22, 2006

Powerful U.S. Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Tomczak) just hates it when I use the D-Tomczak reference in my column.

He made that clear the other day, after another round of post-election interviews, in which no one offended him by invoking D-Tomczak. Other subjects were discussed, including the congressional Democrats pushing a much-needed ethics policy through Congress, and naturally, Emanuel's vast political cunning and acumen.

But no D-Tomczak.

"And you're the one who's going to bring it up, right?" Emanuel told me on Tuesday, bringing it up before I could.

Then he whipped out his index finger, pointing it at my chest as we stood in the middle of the Tribune newsroom. Emanuel wasn't yelling and his finger wasn't jabbing me--much. It was a theatrical gesture to let colleagues who were watching know just how much he hates it when I identify him as U.S. Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Tomczak).

"So, you're going to bring it up?" he said, feisty.

Rahm, you really can't stand the D-Tomczak thing, eh?

"You're right," Emanuel said, with a sort of grin. "You keep mentioning him [Tomczak] in connection with me in your column. That bothers me, because I'm more than that."

Perhaps.

Emanuel is the political operative being credited these days with the Democratic takeover of Congress. He's ruthless and hardworking and, in victory, deserving of post-election applause.

But if City Hall had not sent Don Tomczak, the corrupt city water department boss, to Emanuel's congressional campaign in 2002--and Tomczak's political army of hundreds of city workers who stumped the precincts with the promise of overtime--then Emanuel wouldn't have narrowly defeated a local grass-roots Democrat.

And Emanuel wouldn't have been in a position to bask in all the national media love.

The national media narratives involving Emanuel and another Chicago Democrat, U.S. Sen. Barack Obama (D-Rezko), have already been approved and written.

They're scripts to congeal the national mind, not to be deviated from in polite society. So you're not supposed to mention the soon-to-be imprisoned Tomczak around Emanuel. And never, ever mention the indicted Chicago political Real Estate Fairy, Tony Rezko, to Obama, or ask if Rezko sprinkled magic fairy dust just as Obama purchased his fine home for hundreds of thousands of dollars less than the asking price.

So, the national story lines have been completed, and uttering "Tomczak" or "Real Estate Fairy" is considered almost rude.

But in federal court the day before, I watched four of Mayor Richard Daley's underlings sentenced to federal prison for their roles in amassing giant and illegal patronage armies of city workers who pounded the precincts for the mayor's candidates, including Emanuel.

The four underlings were sentenced for their roles in circumventing federal anti-patronage court orders and rigging thousands of tests and job applications to build those armies of city workers, the salaries and overtime paid for by Chicago taxpayers. That investigation continues reaching up the political ladder.

Two are said to be cooperating with the FBI. Two others are playing the tough guy for now, including Robert Sorich, the mayor's behind-the-scenes No. 2 at Daley's Office of Intergovernmental Affairs.

"I stand before the court and my friends and family to let them know I am not a broken man," said Sorich, defiant, though he was given a 46-month prison sentence. "As I stand before them, I am a lucky man because I have their support. I have tried to do my best and I have tried to be fair."

If the FBI has time on its hands, it might want to look at the Chicago Transit Authority. The CTA has a huge payroll, with political hacks retiring from City Hall with full city pensions, only to get second jobs at the CTA, also with full CTA pensions.

Weepy mayoral apologists argue that Daley underlings shouldn't be sent away to the Club Fed in Oxford, Wis. But patronage armies are political guns, projecting power and control. They provide leverage for the friends of City Hall, men who've made fortunes hauling in taxpayer money in deals involving trucking, insurance, real estate, waste, wrought iron fencing, development and on and on.

And all I wanted to know from political operative Emanuel was this: Who sent Tomczak's army?

"Who?"

Yes, was it Mayor Daley? Or Billy Daley, or [mayoral brain] Tim Degnan? Who?

"I don't know."

Of course you do.

"That's your question?"

Yes, that's the question, I said.

"No, that's your question," Emanuel said, repeatedly declining to answer. "That isn't `the' question. That's `a' question, it's your question, not my question."

If he's more than (D-Tomczak), it's quite possible that he's (D-Philosopher).

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...ack=1&cset=true


Interesting. Also note the Obama reference in there as well. Like I said, I've got a problem with this guy for lying in public about his involvement with the Foley ordeal. But it only adds more fuel to my resentment with him knocking out a grassroots Dem. with dirty $.

And Obama pulling a Cunningham with a purchase of a house at hundreds of thousands under the going price? Better hope there's a good excuse for him on that one, otherwise this is some lovely dirt that will most assuredly show up again come '08.


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Q5echo
asymetrical scepticism



Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Better hope there's a good excuse for him on that one, otherwise this is some lovely dirt that will most assuredly show up again come '08.


there is really nothing there. may i suggest you embrace this f**ker like the second coming cause he's the best chance you got for taking the Whitehouse.

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quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo

Democraps. was there any doubt, people?


No, but it's a welcome change from the countless SOPs of republican scandals. I'm a firm believer in throwing fuc*ers out of office until they either learn or I die trying.


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