Registered: Aug 2003
Location: F1 2008 Red Bull Racing/BMW Sauber
Is the war in Iraq worth your life if you joined the military?
Is the war in Iraq worth your life if you joined the military?
Yes or No
Simple question
Hard to answer for some.
Hopefully this one is not a loaded question, being as how there are very few willing to be honest around here.
See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda
George W Bush
Chickenhawks:
``No, I have not urged my own children to enlist.I don't know the status of my childrens' potentially enlisting in the Guard and Reserve,`` Romney said, his voice tinged with anger.
Massachusetts residents can enlist in the National Guard up to age 39.Romney's five sons range in age from 24 to 35. Neither the Romney children nor the governor have served in the military, Romney spokeswoman Julie Teer said.
More than 1,100 guardsmen and women from Massachusetts are currently serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, a guard spokeswoman said.According to federal statistics, 28 Massachusetts soldiers have been killed so far.
``I don't think you should be so `rah-rah' for a war that you aren't willing to send your own family members to,'' said Rose Gonzalez, 30, of Somerville, whose mother, a state employee, was deployed to Iraq in January.``If he thinks the war is so just and so important and we shouldn't pull out, then he should encourage his own sons to go.`` Mitt backs war, but his boys are safe at home
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: 9 Bywater Street, Chelsea, London
As well as "Yes" and "No" you should also have put "whatever you tell me to, sir!"
Aug-22-2005 21:58
George Smiley
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: 9 Bywater Street, Chelsea, London
Seriously tho, it depends on the spin u wanna put on the war. If you concentrate on the fact that u just freed millions from oppression then possibly the answer would be "yes" (if you gave a shit about the Iraqis of course) but if you concentrate on the war as an economic or war for Israel then you would perhaps vote "no" (unless of course you're Israeli!)
I guess it depends what you consider worth dying for (direct threat to ur country? protecting those in need of protecting? etc)
Aug-22-2005 22:02
St_Andrew
I <3 NYC
Registered: May 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
No I don't think it's worth dieing for. I would die for what I believe in, but I dont believe in the Iraq war...
Aug-22-2005 22:13
ogvh5150
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: F1 2008 Red Bull Racing/BMW Sauber
quote:
Originally posted by George Smiley
I guess it depends what you consider worth dying for (direct threat to ur country? protecting those in need of protecting? etc)
The question is self-explanatory.
But let me make it even more simpler:
Knowing the present course of events in Iraq*, would you want to lose your life there being that you joined the military voluntarily for reasons such as career advancement, college tuition or an enlistment career?
*No WMD's, Iraqi insurgency/rebellion, no government, etc.
In other words I am sure there are people in Iraq saying to themselves:
"I didn't sign up for this."
"What did I get myself into?"
"One weekend a month. my ass.":
Oh yeah, regarding your "spin" rhetoric:
I am not the one who put the spin on you or anyone else into paying for a war that netted no, I repeat, no WMD's.
Right now the ones who fell for the spin are wearing the blue dress.
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Aug-22-2005 22:19
George Smiley
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: 9 Bywater Street, Chelsea, London
quote:
Originally posted by ogvh5150
The question is self-explanatory.
But let me make it even more simpler:
Knowing the present course of events in Iraq*, would you want to lose your life
Ok I think that's as far as I'll go!
There is no circumstance I can think of in ANY situation EVER that I would WANT to lose my life!
Aug-22-2005 22:26
St_Andrew
I <3 NYC
Registered: May 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
quote:
Originally posted by George Smiley
Ok I think that's as far as I'll go!
There is no circumstance I can think of in ANY situation EVER that I would WANT to lose my life!
Imagine Hitler II tries to invade UK to make it into a new North Korea. Would you not risk your life trying to defend your country, and more importantly the values and so that you believe in?
Aug-22-2005 22:36
ogvh5150
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: F1 2008 Red Bull Racing/BMW Sauber
CRAWFORD, Texas (CNN) -- President Bush will launch a new round of speeches Monday to rally support for the war in Iraq, advisers said, as protesters camped outside Bush's Texas home and polls showed weaker support for the two-year conflict.
Senior aides say Bush will attempt to portray the Iraq conflict in the context of long wars like World War II, which U.S. forces fought from 1941 to 1945.
They said the president also will invoke the September 11, 2001, attacks, arguing once again that the insurgents battling American troops in Iraq share the same ideology as the al Qaeda operatives who crashed hijacked jetliners into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a Pennsylvania field. Bush plans bid to rally Iraq support
Not like he's telling his girls to go enlist. After all he is in a PR nightmare enough as it is you'd figure he might as well bet the ranch and throw his kids in there.
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Aug-22-2005 22:47
George Smiley
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: 9 Bywater Street, Chelsea, London
quote:
Originally posted by St_Andrew
Imagine Hitler II tries to invade UK to make it into a new North Korea. Would you not risk your life trying to defend your country, and more importantly the values and so that you believe in?
Yea of course I would but I still wouldn't want to die in the process!!
Aug-22-2005 23:23
metalgearsolid
I am a sexist
Registered: Apr 2005
Location: For you neo/
Dieing for a war that is not justified is not worth it. I would only fight if we were invaded by aliens. Any other human war i don't think so because they are all done due to greed or fear.
Aug-23-2005 00:29
metalgearsolid
I am a sexist
Registered: Apr 2005
Location: For you neo/
ogvh5150 I hate telling you this but I don't think it really matters voting in your poll. I mean don't you prefer my opinion?
Aug-23-2005 00:31
Spacey Orange
still loves trance.
Registered: Jul 2004
Location: California
not mine, but if some fool wants to risk his life so that i can buy gas at a ridiculously low price, then let him.
