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i dont like prog
Registered: Jan 2001
Location: daly city, ca
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yeah iwould say cds because vinyl gets scratches and stuff which makes it less quality.
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Mar-27-2002 21:19
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Intrinzic
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Boston USA
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Hmmmm... I beg to differ... somewhat.
Assuming the record is a DJ quality 12", clean and free of scratches, vinyl has a richer, fuller sound. The analog format of vinyl allows a more "complete" sound than the digital format of CD. CD, however, is a "cleaner" sound. Most people can't really tell the difference anyway.
The best way to understand this is to compare a digital clock to a more traditional clock with hands. The digital clock will display the time in one minute intervals as 4:12, 4:13, 4:14, etc. A traditional clock will gradually move from 4:12 to 4:13 with infinite intervals in between (4:12:001...4:12:002, etc.) Audio follows the same concept. A CD is packets of data at specified intervals, whereas a vinyl record is a recording that is seemless from start to finish.
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Mar-27-2002 21:20
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drizzt81
Professional Lamer

Registered: Nov 2001
Location: GTA #1 - At work
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| quote: | Originally posted by ali92
When I look for sound quality, the first thing I look at is the noise level. CD has a lower noise floor than the best recording studios in the world! That ALONE makes CD's sound quality BETTER than ANY analogue format! There are numerous other reasons, like frequency range, etc.
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ok.. there is somethig wrong right there:
the frequency range of a CD is 44KHz.. it is digital, so that they need to APPROXIMATE the sound waves by using 16 bit numbers (65K choices) and sampling the orignial signal at 44KHZ..
A vinyl is an ANALOG format. This means that -theoretically- the vinlyl is a PERFECT replicate of the sound that was recorded onto it. The CD is an APPROXIMATION. Hence, a vinyl has the chance to be better in terms of quality than a CD. Now, the problem is that the case, when a vinyl is better than a CD is hard to achieve, PLUS CDs have many advantages over vinyls..
well, I think vinyls are great (CD's are not fod DJing imho), but I do not even own a turntable! CD's are more convenient...
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Mar-27-2002 21:23
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Michael Russo
mmm mmm prog
Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Yup, vinyl sounds better for reasons already mentioned.
Somebody was talking about vinyl rips before though... that's only because on a vinyl you get the full, released song, as opposed to a radio rip of much lesser quality.
If two identical songs are released on vinyl and cd, i'd rather take the cd rip. It's much easier to rip a cd properly... it's already in its 1's and 0's, you don't lose anything. On vinyl though, you gotta have a good soundcard, good needles, etc, and in the end you're turning a pure analog waveform into 1's and 0's yourself, instead of in a good studio with pro tools in it.
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Mar-27-2002 21:33
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ali92
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Fishtown, Philadelphia
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| quote: | Originally posted by drizzt81
ok.. there is somethig wrong right there:
the frequency range of a CD is 44KHz.. it is digital, so that they need to APPROXIMATE the sound waves by using 16 bit numbers (65K choices) and sampling the orignial signal at 44KHZ..
A vinyl is an ANALOG format. This means that -theoretically- the vinlyl is a PERFECT replicate of the sound that was recorded onto it. The CD is an APPROXIMATION. Hence, a vinyl has the chance to be better in terms of quality than a CD. Now, the problem is that the case, when a vinyl is better than a CD is hard to achieve, PLUS CDs have many advantages over vinyls..
well, I think vinyls are great (CD's are not fod DJing imho), but I do not even own a turntable! CD's are more convenient... |
Even though vinyl has no frequency range, 44.1 (CD) - 48 (Professional DAT) Khz is the maximum Sampling Rate that can be heard through the human ear. Sampling Rate = Max. Frequency Output times 2. A Sampling Rate of 48 khz is fine and is alreadya bit outside the range of human hearing so, what would make most people think that vinyl has better HUMAN HEARING SOUND QUALITY? Sure, theoratically, analogue formats have infinite frequency levels and infinite bit word-lengths but, how many people have the equipment and mint condition records to replicate the true sound quality of the artist's music? Probably not too many...
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Mar-27-2002 21:46
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