i've seen this doco before and its great. goes into the history of the drug, and the US smear campagin against the drug that proved to be lies etc. very balanced.

Ya I saw it when it aired on TV. The U.S. govt got owned.

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Yes its been up here a few times now, but it cant hurt if it resurfaces every now and again, its a good documentary.

But still ive stoped using E about 4 years ago and befere that i was using it for more than 5 years and i have a sneaking suspicion that my memory isnt what it used to be, actualy it wery much sucks. Must be all the other stuff i was taking before switching from drugs to orange juice at parties.

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I've seen before too. It was pretty interesteing.

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don't do drugs. that is all.

especially prescription drugs. they cause more deaths in the US than all the illicit drugs combined

yeah but i'm on antibiotics right now (food poisoning) and i'm catching some killer tracers.

i like Motrin too. shit is the bomb.

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Originally posted by Moongoose i have a sneaking suspicion that my memory isnt what it used to be

How can you be so sure? If you forgot stuff, you wouldn't know you knew it in the first place, and if you know you forgot something, then you really didn't forget it. It's still in there somewhere...

I actually was very surprised this week regarding MDMA.

I really do believe that the bulk of information we get from our government on illicit drug use is in fact propaganda. Ecstasy is one of those drugs. I'm not condoning drug use, but at the same time, I think the reported consequences are way overblown.

However, this week in my neuropharmacology class, as we were studying the 5-HT (seretonin) system, my professor undeniably stated that MDMA does in fact cause brain damage (dorsal raphe nuclei). Of the illicit drugs we have discussed so far (LSD, cocaine, meth/amphetamines) it has been the one he has been most emphatic about as far as damage goes.

I'm going to have to do some more research into it, but everything I've read has disproved many of the early catastrophic brain-death theories as far as MDMA goes, I wonder if there are any new studies.

Life is full of trade-offs. Alcohol kills brain cells, we all know this. But at what rate? How much alcohol will it take to ruin your brain? Apparently, WAY more than the average person need be concerned about.

I'm sure that E is a hard-core drug, but I too think that the "damage" they speak of is a relative thing.

You can't go through life without getting damaged in some way shape and form as you go...you want to live forever as a perfect specimin, like the day you were born? It's not possible.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono I'm going to have to do some more research into it, but everything I've read has disproved many of the early catastrophic brain-death theories as far as MDMA goes, I wonder if there are any new studies.

i was going to say that as well. it cant be good for you, but from what i gather its doesnt seem to be as bad as other drugs out there eg, meth and ketamine.