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Krypton
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What seperates the rich from the poor?

Education, education, education.

First, if you look at the third world, the middle east, etc., you'll find that their education is different from ours in the lack of one. Many many people there lack any education at all, or are educated under fundamentalist ideologies not even related to academics. That's why we have these madrassas (islamic schools) in pakistan, and child fighters all over the place. With no schools or education, they are sent to fight in these rebel movements.

Second, I can't stand the views of the socialist in punishing the rich simply because they have the money. It is this mentality that keeps the poor poor, and the rich rich. In this country, everyone has the potential to become rich. All someone has to do is educate themselves in making money, not working for it.

FINAL: It's education that separates the haves from the have-nots.

Discuss.


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Omega_M
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Isn't population a significant factor also ? Even if they want to, not everybody in poor countries has access to education or can afford to take education.

Secondly, there's the issue of Brain Drain . Take the case of India. Bright engineers graduate from Government funded top notch schools like the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) and choose to come over to US. These engineers have made a huge impact on the industry. But in the US and not in the home country.


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Kapedano
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I think that its more then education that makes the rich, rich. Education can take you to a certain level. If you want money to work for you, then I dont think you should spend amount of years in universities getting all the degrees, and building up your resume for the corporate world. All schools do for you nowadays is teach you how to work for money.

Now having said all of that. I'd still prefer a Wharton degree in business, and still think like this

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CHRles
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Well, obviously there's a lot of reasons, but overall Krypton is right.
I read that the literacy rate in India is still under 60 percent

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There are many factors that seperate the rich from the poor in this world. Education is one of those factors in many cases but it's far too simplistic to say that it is the only one. Certainly access to education is important but so is access to economic opportunity, health care, an ordered society, security of the person, etc. All these things are necessary for one to prosper economically. If Bill Gates were raised in Chad, suffered from some potentially deadly childhood disease which he could not get treated, and lacked the economic resources to position himself in such a way as to avail himself to economic resources then it is fairly safe to say he would not be rich. Take away any of the things I listed above and no person can establish any wealth to speak of.


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Krypton
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Originally posted by Moral Hazard
There are many factors that seperate the rich from the poor in this world. Education is one of those factors in many cases but it's far too simplistic to say that it is the only one. Certainly access to education is important but so is access to economic opportunity, health care, an ordered society, security of the person, etc. All these things are necessary for one to prosper economically. If Bill Gates were raised in Chad, suffered from some potentially deadly childhood disease which he could not get treated, and lacked the economic resources to position himself in such a way as to avail himself to economic resources then it is fairly safe to say he would not be rich. Take away any of the things I listed above and no person can establish any wealth to speak of.


True.

In the west, especially in the USA, there is the education, the economic opportunity, health care, stable government, etc. In a country like this, the only excuse for not being wealthy is because of a lack of financial education. People don't want to think for themselves. They want the government to everything for them. Or they want their job to do it. They depend on nothing more than a job and the government, then complain that those who do think independently and have made a nice life for themselves aren't paying enough. I'de say I'm strongly anti-socialist.


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quote:
Originally posted by Kapedan
I think that its more then education that makes the rich, rich. Education can take you to a certain level. If you want money to work for you, then I dont think you should spend amount of years in universities getting all the degrees, and building up your resume for the corporate world. All schools do for you nowadays is teach you how to work for money.



Yep, the rich people i know dont have any college degrees & most dont even have a high school diploma.


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Krypton
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Originally posted by jonSun
Yep, the rich people i know dont have any college degrees & most dont even have a high school diploma.


Yep, students these days are taught how to work for money, go to college, learn a trade, then find a stable job with benefits. In today's world, this just isn't going to be possible. It is because of the massive benefits that GM is in such bad waters right now.

You don't need a college degree to:
Invest in the stock market.
Buy & Sell Real Estate.
Start & run your own business.

Those are just three ways many smart people have become rich. And they all don't require a college degree. Just be open-minded, creative, and most of all, LEARN HOW TO MAKE MONEY FROM MONEY AND NOT FROM WORKING A 9-5 JOB.


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Kapedano
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Originally posted by Krypton
Yep, students these days are taught how to work for money, go to college, learn a trade, then find a stable job with benefits. In today's world, this just isn't going to be possible. It is because of the massive benefits that GM is in such bad waters right now.

You don't need a college degree to:
Invest in the stock market.
Buy & Sell Real Estate.
Start & run your own business.

Those are just three ways many smart people have become rich. And they all don't require a college degree. Just be open-minded, creative, and most of all, LEARN HOW TO MAKE MONEY FROM MONEY AND NOT FROM WORKING A 9-5 JOB.


Amen brotha. If everybody thought like us, then there wouldnt be much for us to get out of this, so i'm kind of glad they dont haha

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CHRles
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quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Yep, students these days are taught how to work for money, go to college, learn a trade, then find a stable job with benefits. In today's world, this just isn't going to be possible. It is because of the massive benefits that GM is in such bad waters right now.

You don't need a college degree to:
Invest in the stock market.
Buy & Sell Real Estate.
Start & run your own business.

Those are just three ways many smart people have become rich. And they all don't require a college degree. Just be open-minded, creative, and most of all, LEARN HOW TO MAKE MONEY FROM MONEY AND NOT FROM WORKING A 9-5 JOB.


This reminds me of a book I read ahwile back called Rich Dad Poor Dad
http://www.amazon.com/Rich-Dad-Poor...e/dp/0446677450

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Kapedano
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Originally posted by CHRles
This reminds me of a book I read ahwile back called Rich Dad Poor Dad
http://www.amazon.com/Rich-Dad-Poor...e/dp/0446677450


Great book. I read it a few years ago. I was going to mention that in this thread, but you took it off me

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Originally posted by Kapedan
Great book. I read it a few years ago. I was going to mention that in this thread, but you took it off me


In all honesty, it struck me as a promotional real-estate book. Kyosaki made some good and valid points, but a lot of it was a guy who was in the right place at the right time (nothing wrong with that). Indeed, there is more than one way to skin a cat but real-estate ain't the end-all be-all.

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