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no. ALOT of vengeance kicks are derived from samples off records, at least 50% of your vengeance kicks are vinyl rips he processed that someone probably ripped before him. that is why at least half of them have percussion present over the kick.
the fattest dirtiest crunchiest kicks are 808/909's processed, pressed to vinyl, ripped by someone, re processed, maybe layered if its recently made, and repeated for the last 10+ years. until we got here, the 21st century where someones done it for you and put it on a sample cd which they made by processing kicks from other sample cds. so now thats where you come in thinking all kicks come from so you dont believe you can get fat kicks off vinyl.
fact: manuel from vengeance made all his kicks processing other kicks he found on the internet, vinyls, and various sample cds, no he didnt create his kicks from scratch in wavelab or soundforge by pitching sine waves. go ahead and ask him. that shit only works for pussy ass psy kicks. if you want to try to recreate a 909 and then try to recreate the crunchy compression and low end thump vinyl gives a 909, GL and HF.
all these kick sample cds you guys have, come from people who rip the kick from the intro of every new vinyl they buy, even if theyre not gonna use it, they know it could be a good layer maybe. as long as your kick collection grows.
i have NEVER heard a decent kick come out of a wav editor.
btw doesnt sean tyas use alot of vengeance loops? chances are its a vengeance kick slightly processed to fit his song.
bottom line: ripping your own kick off vinyl and processing it to fit your song is more original than using a vengeance kick. you're just skipping the middle man.
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Last edited by mysticalninja on Jan-03-2007 at 18:11
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JOC/Tyas/ - Bassdrum Kick?
