Become a part of the TranceAddict community!Frequently Asked Questions - Please read this if you haven'tSearch the forums
TranceAddict Forums > Other > Political Discussion / Debate > Get Over yourself Already
Pages (4): [1] 2 3 4 »   Last Thread   Next Thread
Share
Author
Thread    Post A Reply
LazFX
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Aug 2004
Location: 9th Circle
Get Over yourself Already

Another Example of Racism?? Or A bunch of whinny people...
What say you??

quote:
From Aladdin to Lost Ark, Muslims get angry at 'bad guy' film images


Crude and exaggerated stereotypes are fuelling Islamophobia, says study

Lucy Ward, social affairs correspondent
Thursday January 25, 2007
The Guardian






Popular films ranging from Hollywood blockbusters to children's cartoons are depicting "crude and exaggerated" stereotypes of Muslims and perpetuating Islamophobia, according to a study published today.
A report by the Islamic Human Rights Commission argues that films as diverse as The Siege, a portrayal of a terrorist attack on New York starring Denzel Washington and Bruce Willis, the Disney film Aladdin and the British comedy East is East have helped demonise Muslims as violent, dangerous and threatening, and reinforce prejudices.

While The Siege is attacked for inter-cutting Islamic ritual and terrorist violence, potentially linking the two in the minds of audiences, Aladdin faces criticism for depicting Arabs as "ruthless caricatures" with "exaggerated and ridiculous accents".
The study, titled The British media and Muslim representation: the ideology of demonisation, argues that Hollywood has a crucial role in influencing how the public views Muslims.

A survey conducted as part of the research revealed that Muslims in Britain felt negative images of their faith on the big and small screen had consequences in their daily lives. Those interviewed "found a direct correlation between media portrayal and their social experiences of exclusion, hatred, discrimination and violence".

Bias
As well as deep unease with big screen portrayals, the research also found a perception of "unashamed bias" in the media against Muslims, with 62% believing the media to be Islamophobic and 16% describing it as racist. Only 4% considered its representation "fair".

The authors call for more power for cinema censors to be able to curtail or even decline certification of "objectionable material", as well as more effective media watchdogs and increased responsibility in coverage of issues involving Muslims on the part of newspapers and television. The report, part of a series produced by the commission - a research and campaigning body - with the backing of the Joseph Rowntree charitable trust, is significant in that it seeks to provide a direct voice for the Muslim community in Britain.

Massoud Shadjareh, spokesman for the commission, said: "Rather than guess what the Muslim community's needs and aspirations are, it actually comes from the community itself rather than organisations that represent it."

There was widespread agreement among more than 1,100 Muslims questioned by researchers that media reports involving Muslims in Britain are "selective, biased, stereotypical and inaccurate", with Muslims generally considered as "others" and outsiders.

Arzu Merali, head of research at the commission and co-author of the report, said the representation of Muslims in film and television was particularly important, given recent research indicating that eight out of 10 Britons had no close contact with Muslims.

The problem with portrayals in film was not the fact that they were negative images, but that they were the only images: "You don't get a good Muslim guy in a movie." Any suggestion that films such as Aladdin were never intended to be realistic portrayals was "analogous to saying similar things to the Jewish community in the early 1930s", she said.

The fact that films such as The Siege pre-dated the 9/11 attacks on the twin towers challenged any argument that negative portrayals of Muslims as potential suicide bombers are a "natural" result of atrocities such as the Madrid and London bombings, Ms Merali added.

The report says the tale of indiscriminate terrorist violence in New York "brings into focus some of the worst American fears - that is, Muslims or Arabs attacking the country, murdering men, women and children ... and 'attacking our way of life'."

Repeated juxtaposition of Islamic ritual practices such as prayer in a mosque and the call to prayer from a minaret with scenes of exploding bombs and indiscriminate killing implies that "terrorist acts are intrinsic to Islamic beliefs and practices", the study argues.

Executive Decision, featuring a plane hijack by Palestinian terrorists, also shows terrorists reciting prayers before and after murdering innocent passengers, "almost defining terrorism as an Islamic ritual", it adds.

Other films criticised include Raiders of the Lost Ark, where, say the authors, the Egyptian backdrop is portrayed using a stereotyped shorthand including veiled women hurrying through bazaars to the sound of snake-charming music.

Harsh
The cartoon Aladdin faced protests on release in 1993 because its opening song referred to a place where "they cut off your ear if they don't like your face", forcing Disney executives to edit out the lines. Today's report says: "Rather than portray the Arab culture and Islamic religion in a positive or neutral light, the producers associate it with harsh punishments and oppressive practices.

Some of those interviewed believed that the film industry is used as a tool of foreign policy in western countries to demonise Muslims and galvanise public distrust. A Bradford man, aged 35, said the film industry needed "a new bogeyman" after the collapse of communism. Others said the media was the chief instrument of Islamophobia, particularly through the frequent linking of "Islam" and "Muslim" with words such as extremism, terrorism and bombing.

Many felt the media failed to give enough opportunity to Muslims to represent themselves. Those Muslim figures who do appear in the media are seen as either holding extremist views or are "marginalised Muslims" who do not represent the Muslim community.

Myths and messages from the movies

Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)

Indiana Jones must find the ark of the covenant before the Nazis. The report says: "The cultural stereotypes and scenarios are patently obvious," pointing to a street scene featuring bazars, veiled women and bearded men in traditional dress, all set to snake-charming music

The Siege(1998)

Depicts a wave of attacks by Palestinian terrorists in New York city, in response to an Islamic religious leader's abduction by the US military. Report says that the film reinforces "the monolithic stereotype of the Arab/Palestinian/Muslim being violent and ready to be martyred for their cause".

East Is East (1999)

A mixed-race Anglo-Pakistani family in 1970s Salford struggle against the traditional background enforced upon them by their father. The report says the representation of the Muslim husband as a polygamous wife-beating tyrant "fits into many of the negative perceptions people have of Muslims"

Executive Decision (1996)

Palestinians hijack a Boeing 747 to launch a nerve gas attack on Washington DC. Report says the film "plays on the worst fears ... about a potential terrorist lurking in every Arab/Middle Eastern/Muslim-looking person, and the incompatibility of Islamic and western values"

Aladdin (1992)

The report queries why a children's cartoon describes Aladdin's homeland as "barbaric", and notes that "good Arabs" including Aladdin are given American accents while the rest of the cast have "exaggerated and ridiculous Arab accents".

House of Sand and Fog (2003)

An abandoned wife is evicted from her home, which is taken over by an Iranian family forced to flee their country following the 1979 revolution. The report says the film constructs a "negative description of the revolution, without enabling any detailed or balanced analysis of the event"


I thought it was retarded for a national cable network here in the states to stop showing Speedy Gonzales due to the same thing this study says is going on in the industry today. I mean there was nothing Wrong with Speedy In Fact he was always getting the best over the Gringo Cat. lol

Last edited by LazFX on Jan-26-2007 at 07:44

Old Post Jan-26-2007 06:54  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for LazFX Click here to Send LazFX a Private Message Visit LazFX's homepage! Add LazFX to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Dopey
Palestinian Pornstar



Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Ramallah

oh my.

I love speedy Gonzalez more than I love steak! And I love steak.

They will stop whining in a few years when they get over themselves. Welcome to to the wild wild west!


___________________
quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
i listen to trance becuase it is beautifully composed like a classical piece of music.... but with beats in it...

quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium
I hardly if ever acknowledge sarcasm from a person I dont know because I ran into serious problems on an undisclosed buying website before.

Old Post Jan-26-2007 11:46  Palestine
Click Here to See the Profile for Dopey Click here to Send Dopey a Private Message Add Dopey to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Shakka
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Feb 2003
Location:

THE STONES ARE MINE!!!

Old Post Jan-26-2007 13:58  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for Shakka Click here to Send Shakka a Private Message Add Shakka to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Yoepus
Neo-condimist



Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Ketchup fields, Texas

I like how the Islamic Human Rights Commission is championing this issue you know, instead of all those minor issue like Islamic women's right, The rights of Islamic children, the disinlusionment of honor in Islamic society, torture, hangings, dismemberment, and you know, democratic and legal systems to protect basic human rights in muslim countries across the world.


___________________
SAVE ZIONIST MUSTARD: BUY ZIONIST KETCHUP!


Click here to support the free mustard alliance.

Old Post Jan-26-2007 15:45  Israel
Click Here to See the Profile for Yoepus Click here to Send Yoepus a Private Message Visit Yoepus's homepage! Add Yoepus to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
shaolin_Z
Hei Hu Quan



Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

I don't see why the conclusion of this study is such a hard concept to grasp. It's happened to every group, black, hispanic, Jew etc. We're just the last. "Get over yourself already?"


___________________
"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

Old Post Jan-26-2007 16:20  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for shaolin_Z Click here to Send shaolin_Z a Private Message Add shaolin_Z to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
LazFX
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Aug 2004
Location: 9th Circle

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
I don't see why the conclusion of this study is such a hard concept to grasp. It's happened to every group, black, hispanic, Jew etc. We're just the last. "Get over yourself already?"


See thats why I tell People You are my bud!! You understand it.

check your PMs bro,

Old Post Jan-26-2007 16:31  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for LazFX Click here to Send LazFX a Private Message Visit LazFX's homepage! Add LazFX to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
shaolin_Z
Hei Hu Quan



Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

Yeah, except there's always political motives behind such propaganda, wheather it's just to maintain status quo, or rationalize the states policies in people's subconcious.

EDIT: I've always been aware of this, but I never really brought it up. Because there's too much research required to prove a point like this. The one time I did mention it in relevance to an issue I no longer remember when I was discussing something with trancaholic, which he simply dismissed unless I prove it to him. I guess I should add that I have nothing against trancaholic and he was actually one of my favourite posters here. Speaking of trancaholic, where the hell did he go?


___________________
"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

Old Post Jan-26-2007 16:38  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for shaolin_Z Click here to Send shaolin_Z a Private Message Add shaolin_Z to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
LazFX
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Aug 2004
Location: 9th Circle

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Yeah, except there's always political motives behind such propaganda, wheather it's just to maintain status quo, or rationalize the states policies in people's subconcious.

EDIT: I've always been aware of this, but I never really brought it up. Because there's too much research required to prove a point like this. The one time I did mention it in relevance to an issue I no longer remember when I was discussing something with trancaholic, which he simply dismissed unless I prove it to him. I guess I should add that I have nothing against trancaholic and he was actually one of my favourite posters here. Speaking of trancaholic, where the hell did he go?


yeah, where the hell did he go???

Old Post Jan-26-2007 16:48  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for LazFX Click here to Send LazFX a Private Message Visit LazFX's homepage! Add LazFX to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
shaolin_Z
Hei Hu Quan



Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

quote:
Originally posted by LazFX
You understand it.


Uhh... I think you misinterpreted something. I was saying this study is pretty accurate. And to say "Get over yourself already" is quite silly.


___________________
"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

Old Post Jan-26-2007 17:01  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for shaolin_Z Click here to Send shaolin_Z a Private Message Add shaolin_Z to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
LazFX
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Aug 2004
Location: 9th Circle

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Uhh... I think you misinterpreted something. I was saying this study is pretty accurate. And to say "Get over yourself already" is quite silly.


Maybe its the SHiraz again..... but I knew what ya ment

Old Post Jan-26-2007 17:06  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for LazFX Click here to Send LazFX a Private Message Visit LazFX's homepage! Add LazFX to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Dopey
Palestinian Pornstar



Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Ramallah

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
I like how the Islamic Human Rights Commission is championing this issue you know, instead of all those minor issue like Islamic women's right, The rights of Islamic children, the disinlusionment of honor in Islamic society, torture, hangings, dismemberment, and you know, democratic and legal systems to protect basic human rights in muslim countries across the world.















"Aladdin and Jack Bauer are hurting our cultural image!"


___________________
quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
i listen to trance becuase it is beautifully composed like a classical piece of music.... but with beats in it...

quote:
Originally posted by Magnetonium
I hardly if ever acknowledge sarcasm from a person I dont know because I ran into serious problems on an undisclosed buying website before.

Last edited by Dopey on Jan-26-2007 at 17:54

Old Post Jan-26-2007 17:12  Palestine
Click Here to See the Profile for Dopey Click here to Send Dopey a Private Message Add Dopey to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
LazFX
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Aug 2004
Location: 9th Circle

Honestly, I can understand why the Muslims are fed up. I mean I think were all heard of the term, "Lazy Mexicans"


And I guess its the current time of man's history that we have the internet and 24hr news, so we are saturated with all of the negativity.

It sucks truely, cause what I have experienced with racism, I would not wish on my worst enemy.

Old Post Jan-26-2007 17:32  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for LazFX Click here to Send LazFX a Private Message Visit LazFX's homepage! Add LazFX to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message

TranceAddict Forums > Other > Political Discussion / Debate > Get Over yourself Already
Post New Thread    Post A Reply

Pages (4): [1] 2 3 4 »  
Last Thread   Next Thread
Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackPlayed by Sasha, 2000 [2007] [2]

Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackHolden & Thompson - Nothing [2007]

Show Printable Version | Subscribe to this Thread
Forum Jump:

All times are GMT. The time now is 16:47.

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
[IMG] code is ON
 
Search this Thread:

 
Contact Us - return to tranceaddict

Powered by: Trance Music & vBulletin Forums
Copyright ©2000-2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Privacy Statement / DMCA
Support TA!