Is there some sort of set of guidelines for just how much re-working can be done to a track before it crosses that line into being a separate piece of music, rather than just a variation?

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to me if it started as a remix it'll still be a remix...

maybe I just don't understand your question

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edits are not remixs if that's what you are going for...at least, not in my book.

an edit can be anything from taking out a breakdown to adding a loop.

a remix, i think, is taking the original parts and rearranging them, creating somthing significantly different.

I thought the question is when a remix/edit turns out to be a new piece of music totally...

my guess was that if he had main melody for example and worked a song around it...then deleted it and substituted it with a new one...if it would still be a remix/edit or a new piece of music...therefore my reply...


otherwise I'm with you on the explanation of differences between remix/edit.

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Let me clarify, then. How much/which stuff has to change for something to be a n edit or a remix? I have some vague concept of what each is, but is it purely subjective, or is there some quasi-standard to go by? If it's all just opinion, what's yours?

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An edit is when you just edit the song. Like take out a phrase or extend a breakdown, etc... A remix is when you take elements of a song and rework them into a new song. Say you really like a distinctive bassline take that bassline and sample it then create a new song around it. That's a remix.

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Originally posted by Zild An edit is when you just edit the song. Like take out a phrase or extend a breakdown, etc... A remix is when you take elements of a song and rework them into a new song. Say you really like a distinctive bassline take that bassline and sample it then create a new song around it. That's a remix.

Well, but for the purpose of TLing, wouldn't you basically have to put [edit] on everything, unless you're just really lazy and don't change anything, going by that method?

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Its all totally subjective. The difference between an edit and a remix, the point at which something becomes a new piece, not a remix.
Legally, its a very different case to morally. If someone can't pick a song as being a remix of another song, or if there is reasonable doubt, your OK, legally. Morally/artistically, its a matter of how diabolical you really are.

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Originally posted by Inconspicuous Well, but for the purpose of TLing, wouldn't you basically have to put [edit] on everything, unless you're just really lazy and don't change anything, going by that method?

I've never had to edit the songs in my mixes, so I don't know much about it.

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It's a question of intent and methodology, not how much or how little has actually changed. Of course it's subjective, but so is everything in music and art; that doesn't mean the distinction isn't a valid one.

Essentially the distinction is this: if you started from the original track, wholesale, as one waveform, then whatever you do to it is an edit. If you started with MIDI parts, a couple of samples, etc., then it's a remix, although it could still be a very lame and unoriginal remix.

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The fine line between an edit and a remix...
Moral intent and such things aside. Physically and edit is where you modify by take something away from or add something to an original track without modifying the original layout of the track. A remix by definition, is a re-mixing of the original track.

Examples:
A track you like is too long so you take away the breakdown to shorten the track. This is an edit.
You take the snares on a track and reverse loop them to create a "warped" sound. Then re-sequence them in the original track. This is a remix.

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