Ok i found a sample of what im talking about. http://www.badongo.com/file/2329435 i want the midi file so that i can change all the snare, hat etc. sounds into something i like

Vengeance samples huh, why don't you just use that? Change some frequencies so it sounds different or something, im sure you wanna learn how to do it as do I but I put it in FL and looked at the WAV and figured some crap out. I'm no expert but i thought i would give it a go.

I know i left some stuff out but try and listen to it at a low volume and mess around putting your samples over it to cover it up, you know like matching it. I'm pretty buzzed right now so i cant hear everything right but i hope this starts you out.

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ROFL there is so much more to making a groove like that than MIDI...

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Originally posted by ASFSE ROFL there is so much more to making a groove like that than MIDI...

If your such an expert why not tell me all about it....
Oh and thanks heaps for the advice and midi gwrmarines although i was thinking more about the background noise like snare bongo and stuff like that. i know the basic patterns of the kick hats and clap but im missing the background sounds. my loops that i try to make just dont sound full. they sound verry empty

Last edited by catalystG5 on Feb-28-2007 at 02:49

He's right, just making a drum pattern with the MIDI notes isn't enough. Those VEC loops (the ones which aren't ripped from tracks) have tons of EQ, compression, and quite possibly a few other things like light distortion or tube effects, flangers, etc.

You simply won't get that kind of sound with a plain vanilla sequence of plain vanilla samples.

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Originally posted by DigiNut He's right, just making a drum pattern with the MIDI notes isn't enough. Those VEC loops (the ones which aren't ripped from tracks) have tons of EQ, compression, and quite possibly a few other things like light distortion or tube effects, flangers, etc. You simply won't get that kind of sound with a plain vanilla sequence of plain vanilla samples.

so any advice of what i should do???? do you also think it could have something to do with the velocity

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Originally posted by catalystG5 so any advice of what i should do???? do you also think it could have something to do with the velocity

It definitely has something to do with the velocity. Its hard to get a good groove if everything is at the same volume every time. Its the accents that make it groove. A little bit of shuffle helps too, makes it sound less robotic.

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what do you mean by shuffle

what do you mean by shuffle. how do you guys go about doing it

u need a highpassed kick, a shaker, an opeh hihat, and a close hat. and something else im not catching atm, its some kind of effect i think on the first bar

and craploads of group compression and compressed reverb.

personally i think it sounds like crap.

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Last edited by mysticalninja on Feb-28-2007 at 07:07

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Originally posted by catalystG5 what do you mean by shuffle. how do you guys go about doing it

what sequencer are you using?

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