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Enigmatic XTC
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Registered: Jun 2006
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Looking for a good FM/Granular/Wavetable tutorial

There are lots of tutorials around for subtractive synthesis, but i don't remember seeing any for FM or AM synthesis. if anyone knows of any, put 'em up.

P.S. Yes, i checked the tutorial list and the CM FM tutorial is apparently no longer there as it won't open for me.


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Yeah, sucks about CM, they had probably the most complete set of tutorials online. They said they were going to put them back up, and never did. Seems silly to me, it was great marketing for their magazine.

I found this one which seems to be pretty good. I haven't had the chance to go through the whole thing, but maybe you can let me know how you find it, and if it's worth reading, I'll add it to the sticky:

http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/200...s-tutorial.html

AM isn't really a form of synthesis. It's actually what you're doing on subtractive synths when you use LFOs to modulate the signal. That's AM. Maybe what you're thinking of is PM or Phase Modulation?


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Enigmatic XTC
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Thanks for this. I would say that its worth reading, but i would see if other people found it helpful or not before adding it to the sticky. As for AM, i was thinking of additive synthesis and typed the wrong thing (then again, i suppose i already do additive synthesis in subtractive synthesizers if not using the filter). Anyways, thanks.

Edit: I've decided to just use this thread to ask for any non-subtractive synthesis technique tutorials.


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read over that tutorial...and it's REALLY basic. good if you know nothing about FM synthesis, but there is a lot of stuff they don't really talk about.


to really use FM synthesis you gotta read up into some harmonics info. since you're basically creating sounds out of noise...you need to at least know the general basics of it.


i'm obviously not an expert on it, but i exclusively use FM so if there is anything inparticular you need help understanding feel free to ask...and even though they kinda didn't like it...i work with abelton's operator. it's very powerful and is making some beautiful sounds.


i know FM isn't that popular around here, but i really think it's the way to go if you want to be able to make any sound...

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Enigmatic XTC
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Originally posted by Floorfiller
read over that tutorial...and it's REALLY basic. good if you know nothing about FM synthesis, but there is a lot of stuff they don't really talk about.


to really use FM synthesis you gotta read up into some harmonics info. since you're basically creating sounds out of noise...you need to at least know the general basics of it.


i'm obviously not an expert on it, but i exclusively use FM so if there is anything inparticular you need help understanding feel free to ask...and even though they kinda didn't like it...i work with abelton's operator. it's very powerful and is making some beautiful sounds.


i know FM isn't that popular around here, but i really think it's the way to go if you want to be able to make any sound...

Thanks, yeah i was looking for something really basic, mainly to explain the principles. I'm going to start messing around with FM some and learn how it really works. If i come up with any specific questions i will make sure to ask you. Again, thanks.


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There's a rather good practically oriented section on FM synthesis in the free ebook How to Make a Noise, available at www.noisesculpture.com

Other sites:

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStri...88/2fmsynth.htm

http://www.clavia.se/nordmodular/Mo...Msynthesis.html

Making a bass with FM tutorial:

http://www.sequencer.de/ableton/fm_bass_operator.html

Those should get you started.


I haven't seen any tutorials about wavetable synthesis. But basically WS is about modulating the wavetable position someway (slowly vs rapidly, a bit vs dratically, envs vs lfos...) so as to get movement in the sound. What you can do with it depends greatly on the wavetables you are using: you're not going to get a silky morphing pad out of a steppy table; you need one with smooth transitions between waves.


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Hey... good thread. I too am in somewhat of the same boat as Enigmatic XTC.

@ Floorfiller

Do you use any other FM synths

@ jivamukti

I did like the geocities site. Quite informative indeed.


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Originally posted by jivamukti
There's a rather good practically oriented section on FM synthesis in the free ebook How to Make a Noise, available at www.noisesculpture.com

Other sites:

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStri...88/2fmsynth.htm

http://www.clavia.se/nordmodular/Mo...Msynthesis.html

Making a bass with FM tutorial:

http://www.sequencer.de/ableton/fm_bass_operator.html

Those should get you started.


I haven't seen any tutorials about wavetable synthesis. But basically WS is about modulating the wavetable position someway (slowly vs rapidly, a bit vs dratically, envs vs lfos...) so as to get movement in the sound. What you can do with it depends greatly on the wavetables you are using: you're not going to get a silky morphing pad out of a steppy table; you need one with smooth transitions between waves.

Thanks for those tutorials, if you know of any more throw 'em up. Thanks.


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@ Floorfiller

Do you use any other FM synths


i've used FM7 before as well...

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using dx10 and well you can see what all bassically just a quick shot at fm i find fm to be rather hard becuase even the slightest tweak of one knob can put it way where you didnt want it to be. but alas with fm you can make virtually any sound you want heres a quick shot a the lead of amnesia
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