lol i was in the chat during the discussion...

personally, i do have things against people who do that kinda stuff. agree with you about the temporary pleasure. also, in a way, i dislike those who take this sort of "easy way out". being an athelete as well, i hate it when i see people destory their own bodies with the stuff that they put in. But at the same time i do leave this people alone, and let them do their own thing, no matter how much i dislike it.

i dont do drugs because of moral and health reasons.

hope this thread stays firendly.

-phasefour

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I don't know if they are weak minded, but the people I know who smoke weed alot (not just on occasion) just seem to have to much time on their hands. Its like "Hey, I'm bored, I'm gonna smoke." This seems to become the way that they pass the time, and it becomes a habit. My roommate is the biggest pothead i have ever met. He's also a modern day hippie and says it helps him see the world better, or it helps him concentrate. I don't get it. Oh well, just my 2 cents

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Originally posted by Kevin Rx I don't know if they are weak minded, but the people I know who smoke weed alot (not just on occasion) just seem to have to much time on their hands. Its like "Hey, I'm bored, I'm gonna smoke." This seems to become the way that they pass the time, and it becomes a habit. My roommate is the biggest pothead i have ever met. He's also a modern day hippie and says it helps him see the world better, or it helps him concentrate. I don't get it. Oh well, just my 2 cents

I agree...regular pot smokers don't know what to do with their time so they smoke pot. I myself am an occasional weed smoker. I do it just to relax and chill out. I know I don't need to do it but I feel it doesn't hurt you much, it's really about the same as alcohol. I do see people like my friend's brother who hasn't really gone too far in life and who is a major pothead. I don't know, I don't think its that bad of a thing while I think it is, it's hard to tell. People have ruined their lives with it either just becoming burnouts or moving on to harder drugs and then dying. It helps you relax and chill out and see things better but isn't the greatest enhancer to one's life, thats why I only do it once in awhile.

Bottom line...occasional smokers are those who do it just because they like it and want to have a good time and regular users are the ones who need to fill a sort of void in their life.

you could make the same argument for trance addicts.

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you could make the same argument for trance addicts.

Very true, but loving a type of music and making it a big part of your life IS NOT the same as loving a drug and making that a big part of your life. just not the same.

I think its wrong to moralise about others peoples lifes like this.. Saying that people are weak minded or whatever because they smoke alot of pot. Its up to them really, they know the price they pay for smoking alot... You dont get as much things done as you should, but if thats fine by them, its fine by me...

Considering cannabis is considered less harmful than tobacco by most scientists nowadays, shouldn't we be discussing people who smoke tobacco?

I certainly don't condemn it. I would prefer if noone smoked,
if not for their own good but for the fact it places a burden on national health services and also puts the rest of us at risk through oassive smoking. But of course that's all an idealistic fantasy.

Some people lead more stressful lives than others, and one could argue they "need" it more. Look how many doctors do drugs. Their job is incredibly stressful, and the figures show it's proportional to drug taking.

I don't agree it is for weak minded people. It brings them pleasure, or for others, relieves their stress. To say it is weak to fall for this temptation equates to saying that people are "weak" for having casual sex, "weak" for drinking, or weak for doing anything which in the short term they find pleasurable, but in the long term may cause them harm.

Some people would argue that casual sex, drinking and smoking, are all weak minded activities.

I certainly think if you consider one weak minded, you have to have consistency with your views regarding other pleasurable but potentially harmful activities.

I wouldn't consider myself weak for binge drinking every week, I think "reckless" or "complacent" would be a better term. I know that every time I get drunk I am doing long term damage to my liver. But I am not falling for the temptation of beers. I'm more of a pisshead actually, since most of the drinking I do is with the main intention of getting drunk.

I'd say I'm "complacent" to the risks, or "reckless", but not "weak minded". Most people either get drunk, have casual sex, smoke, take drugs, or even just laze around excessively, regularly.

We all do this. How can all of us be "weak minded". Surely what is weak is what is below the average standard. But I would say smoking cannabis is about on a par with it.

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BTW, I'm not judging anyone, I need my occasional drunken stuper, I just don't smoke weed. However, some of my best friends are big pot smokers. Who am I to judge someone?

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Originally posted by Kevin Rx Very true, but loving a type of music and making it a big part of your life IS NOT the same as loving a drug and making that a big part of your life. just not the same.

Maybe it is.

I'm going to assume you go into nightclubs or parties or similar gatherings regularly which play very loud music. If this assumption is wrong then ignore what i'm about to say as it doesn't apply to you, but otherwise, it does.

Everyone knows that regular clubbing can have negative long term effects on your hearing. It's seen a lot of press discussion in recent years, everyone knows the risks of frequently exposing oneself to extremely loud music.

Yet, you go because it gives you pleasure and enjoyment.


I really can't see there's a big difference between this and cannabis.

Cannabis is not addictive, nor is trance (some people here might argue that one!). Therefore, every time they take cannabis, or enter a nightclub, they are making the decision.

At the end of the day, we all do something regularly for pleasure which we know will have negative consequences.

i'm not talking about the addiction or hearing loss, I'm talking about clinging to it as a lifestyle.

people who smoke weed and advertise it at every possible oppurtunity and think they're all hardcore because they do it as often as possible are the the biggest losers. I'll do it once in a while on the weekend with a few friends to kick back and relax but I don't get the people who do it everyday . I know one guy who used to boast about blazing 4 times a day and always before bed and he thought he was the shit. he listened to rap, go figure. fags.

I see people using alcohol as something to identify an image with them, every party they are the drunk ones parading around screaming how much the love beer..

I don't think there is anything different with weed, some people smoke it to be cool, same with cigarettes and alcohol.

If you use a drug like weed, alcohol, smokes to be cool or something I think you have issues.

Some of the most intelligent people in history used drugs, alcohol, weed, mushrooms, etc....

Especially when dealing with great writers you see many used alcohol habitually, many great thinkers seem to grip to some release that drugs/alcohol offer.

To say if you smoke weed makes you weak minded is like me saying smart people only drink pepsi. Its a HUGE generalization and its stupid if you think this way, sorry but thats how I feel. There are smart weed smokers, dumb ones, fat ones, skinny ones, black ones, white ones, purple ones, tall ones, short ones, celebritie ones, regular people, polititans, etc.... To STAMP a whole huge part of this world population with a weak statement like "Is smoking pot for weak minded ppl" is pretty weak minded

I smoke weed a few times a year, drink socially, and once in a while enjoy some magic mushrooms... I don't use them to make me feel good, I use them cause they are fun and a release from reality...

We goto movie theaters for escapism, same with reading books, dreaming... All humans desire alternate experiences, we all differ on how we experience these different experiences, but we all seek them nonetheless.

But what would I know, I'm a weak minded pot smoker, lol

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