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rubez
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supersaw superwave dll

can vanguard do a supersaw?

i downloaded SUPERWAVEP8.dll

where should i put it?

i have FL 6 producer

thanks

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put it in your pipe and smoke it

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rubez
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found it "C:\Program Files\Image-Line\FL Studio 6\Plugins\VST"

useless ****

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ASFSE
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oh look you found it by yourself, good job!

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rubez
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is this supposed to sound like rank 1 - airwave or cygnus x - superstring?

how do u get the lush keyboard jp roland sound?

it sounds like a gameboy

here is the picture if anyone can help

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ASFSE
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quote:
Originally posted by rubez
how do u get the lush keyboard jp roland sound?


buy a roland jp, duh

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rubez
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using software to recreate it as best possibe

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ASFSE
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i'll look into it when i'm at home.

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For recreating good supersaw sounds I'd say go with Arturia Mini Moog, or Mini Monsta, using:
3X Moog instances:
- 2X: 3 detuned saw waves
- 1X: one regular saw
will give you fat ass result, but then again, it will kill you cpu unless you got one hell of a beast there.
other then that, pro 53 is great, ES2, and basicly almost every VST that you know how to use right.

The Definition (from another post here, by DJSentinel):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersaw
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Supersaw
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What is the supersaw? How is the sound achieved? Well here is a bit of info on Roland's supersaw.
The "supersaw" is a special waveform originally on the Roland JP-8000 and 8080 line of Analog Modelling Synthesizers, thought I has made its way into other synths from Roland. The idea behind the supersaw is the emulate the sound of more than one sawtooth oscillator using just one oscillator. The waveform is described as freerun oscillator which its shape "or timbre" is that of 7 detuned sawtooth oscillators detuned against each other over a period of time. This creates the known chorus effect, which can be though of as 7 singers who are singing within +10 or -10 cents of each other. The reason the supersaw sounds so much different than that is that each oscillator of 7 is exactly the same shape, which creates a much clearer representation of that "chorus effect."
The actual process that goes into the supersaw effect is known as Phase Desync. Phase Desync is a synthesis technique to achieve a "chorus" sound. It can be done by using a carrier wave "saw oscillator for example," and modulating its signal using a comb filter where the filter cutoff frequency is usually modulated with an LFO, which the LFO's depth (or amplitude) is equal to the saw oscillator's current frequency. It can also be done by using a copied signal and have the copy run throught a delay which the delay's time is modulated again by an LFO where the LFO's depth is equal to the saw oscillator's current frequency. But most of the time the effect is achived by taking two saw oscillators and detuning one plus or minus an amount of cents away from the other's current frequency. What produces the effect is the sum of two "desynced" waves produces a sum wave, which its timbre changes according to the position of the "desynced" wave of the pair.
This all results in the effects that there is more than one oscillator and creates that shimmering and inconstant tone. The supersaw has taken much populaty in electronic music, and in specific the trance genre.
This article was written by DJsentinel from Aylcame Productions. All information is as given and has been collected from self-knowledge and the various bits and pieces of the definiton of "supersaw" on the internet. You may contact DJsentinel at http://www.aylcame.aerohostale.com/


Good luck!

P.S.
There are so many posts about the SuperSaw that I don't see any reason for farther explaination, now it's just up to you to go back and search for some more knowledge.


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djms
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quote:
Originally posted by 3rd Signal
For recreating good supersaw sounds I'd say go with Arturia Mini Moog, or Mini Monsta, using:
3X Moog instances:
- 2X: 3 detuned saw waves
- 1X: one regular saw
will give you fat ass result, but then again, it will kill you cpu unless you got one hell of a beast there.
other then that, pro 53 is great, ES2, and basicly almost every VST that you know how to use right.

The Definition (from another post here, by DJSentinel):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersaw


Good luck!

P.S.
There are so many posts about the SuperSaw that I don't see any reason for farther explaination, now it's just up to you to go back and search for some more knowledge.



You sure you can get a supersaw sound out of the minimoog? I've never heard it do any saw kinda sounds.............


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If you look he recommends a total of 6 detuned saw waves plus one other for good measure! Thats alot of saw!

The ones I would use would be V-station, Reaktor, Vaz or my JP8080

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The good thing about the Roland JP, is that you get the supersaw by pressing one button, and moving one slider.

The P8 isnt very good at making them though, Superwave Performer, and Supersaw VST does a better job.


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