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LazFX
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Dunno On Ward Christian Soldiers!!

religion man......hmmph go fig.

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Group Plans To Picket Va. Tech Funerals
Anti-Gay Religious Group Known For Protesting At Services For U.S. Soldiers Killed In Iraq

The families of those killed in the Virginia Tech massacre may not be able to grieve in peace at the funerals of those they lost. An anti-gay religious group known for protesting at the funerals of American soldiers killed in Iraq is planning on appearing at services for those killed on Monday as well.

The Topeka, Kan.-based Westboro Baptist Church (WBC), which is not affiliated with any national Baptist organization, announced plans to protest at victims’ funerals only hours after 32 people were killed in the worst mass shooting in U.S. history. They also may protest at other events on the Virginia Tech campus.

The organization, founded and led by Fred Phelps, believes the United States has condemned itself to destruction by accepting homosexuality and other “sins of the flesh.” Phelps’ daughter, Shirley Phelps-Roper, said the Virginia Tech teachers and students who died on Monday brought their fate upon themselves by not being true Christians.

“The evidence is they were not Christian. God does not do that to his servants,” Phelps-Roper said. “You don’t need to look any further for evidence those people are in hell.”

Cho Seung-Hui, the Virginia Tech student responsible for the killings who took his own life after the shootings, was sent by God to punish those he killed, and America as a whole, for moral decline, said Phelps-Roper, while adding that she believes Cho is also in hell for violating God’s commandment to not kill.

“He is in hell,” Phelps-Roper said. “But he was also fulfilling the word of God.”

Because of its virulent anti-gay message and condemnation of Catholics, Jews and other groups, the WBC has been classified as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center and is monitored by the Anti-Defamation League.

Curtis Dahn, the president of Virginia Tech’s Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Alliance, said he reacted with immediate disgust upon hearing of the WBC's plans. “Thirty-three people are dead and they’re using people’s deaths and people’s grief to further their own agenda and it’s just disgusting,” he said.

Dahn was friends with Ryan Clark, a resident assistant in Ambler Johnston Hall, who was among the first people killed on Monday. He said he is working with other university leaders and officials to form a response to the WBC. Ideally, he said, the funerals will be nothing more than a chance for family and friends to mourn in peace.

“Part of it is that I don’t want the families to be affected by this at all,” he said. “I don’t even want the funerals’ locations to be public knowledge. I don’t want a protest, I don’t want a counter-protest. I want people to be able to grieve and have what they want, not be made into public displays and mockeries.”

Dahn and others may have the law on their side. In 2006, in response to protests at the funerals of dead U.S. soldiers, Virginia enacted a law that added funerals and memorial services to the state’s disorderly conduct statute. Other states have adopted similar measures to allow police to keep WBC protesters out of earshot.

By David Miller
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Dude this is so wrong........

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pmoisse
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One of the downsides of full freedom of speech I guess.

At least this fuckbag is old, and will die soon. Hopefully his wife and spawn don't have the "passion" to carry on his "work" when he's gone.

I saw this guy on tv when someone was doing a report on him protesting at soldiers' funerals. They don't come much more disgusting than this dude.


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LazFX
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Originally posted by pmoisse
One of the downsides of full freedom of speech I guess.



yeppers, ain't it the truth...... but I would not doubt that there will be some small shoving matches....

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pmoisse
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^^ I think that's part of what this twat wants. He wants to provoke anger in everyone else, and [Darth Vader] Bring them to the Dark Side [/Vader]. If someone were to push him or any of his entourage, you just know that he'd press charges (however absurd the charges or offense might be) just to prove a point.

There are laws against protesting at funerals because of this guy, so hopefully law enforcement will keep them well out of earshot for the people attending the ceremony.

edit: I would love nothing more than to see his whole entourage get the shit kicked out of them by those bikers that ride around to where these guys are protesting to support the families of the fallen. Except, for added fun, have a group of Hells Angels or Bandido's stand in for the normal biker crew


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Lilith
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It would be insulting to vultures everywhere to call them carrion birds.
But its the same old problem really of 'political correctness' being used for some rather dirty and sinister practice by those who directly oppose it. Beware the extremists, they'll use this is a way to get their point across in all areas of tolerant society.

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“He is in hell,” Phelps-Roper said. “But he was also fulfilling the word of God.”


Oh my goodness, these people would have a delightfully evil sense of humor if they would drop the religious facade for a few minutes.

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Phelps’ daughter, Shirley Phelps-Roper, said the Virginia Tech teachers and students who died on Monday brought their fate upon themselves by not being true Christians.

“The evidence is they were not Christian. God does not do that to his servants,” Phelps-Roper said. “You don’t need to look any further for evidence those people are in hell.”


I hope she gets raped...really badly. Did you see that movie Irreversible? Someone needs to do to her what they did with Monica Belluci i that movie except that in the end there wont be a man in the chair that says CUT! Oh and all her children need to get raped too. Even the boys. And they all need to get pregnant (yes even the boys, god will make it happen).

Seriously why do americans go half ways across the world to shoot people when there are such nice targets in their own backyards. Thats just bad economics.


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I know these guys normally only show for soldier's funerals but maybe they're make an exception....

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quote:
Originally posted by pmoisse
One of the downsides of full freedom of speech I guess.



NO.

this is an upside of full freedom of speech. the more these morons pull stunts like this, the more people will open their eyes to the stupidity of fundamentalist religion. dissenting opinion should never be silenced, even in cases like this.


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NO.

this is an upside of full freedom of speech. the more these morons pull stunts like this, the more people will open their eyes to the stupidity of fundamentalist religion. dissenting opinion should never be silenced, even in cases like this.

NO
It won't stop people from being religious or following religion.

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WM2
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If anyone hasn't seen them I fully suggest looking up "the most hated family in America" on youtube. It's a 7 video set done by a guy from the BBC about these people. It made me sick knowing that these people were claiming to be Christians and saying all the crap they did.

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Seems to me that Cho Seung-Hui took out his anger on the wrong people...


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