Hi guys,
I know you don't like all those questions but I usually don't do silly or noobish stuff around here so I'm allowed once, right?(though if you read everything you'll see it's not so noobish)
Well I've been listening lately to -
Ron Van Den Beuken - Alcatraz (original mix)
and I was kind of captured by that bass so I tried to reproduce something like it and I got close but not as much as I want to, I'm lacking that sharpness the original got.
I'm assuming it's a Saw wave with some Overdrive on it but I'm still lacking some other important details.
I was hoping you guys could help me out here.
I'm using Absynth for it, tell me if you got something else on your mind that would bring me closer to the one I want.
Sample of the track - [[ LINK REMOVED ]]


Also, I was wondering about the mix, the bass is delayed as far as I can hear and the line goes over the kick (meaning it's probably not sidechaind). how come the bass ain't pushing the low end of the kick out? is it basic compression or a bit farther into the fx (explaination would be lovely)?

Many thanks you guys!

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Hmmm it sounds like a sub bass, with a mid-bass layered on top with slight delay panned to the left. The mid-bass sounds like it has some distortion.

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[i] Also, I was wondering about the mix, the bass is delayed as far as I can hear and the line goes over the kick (meaning it's probably not sidechaind). how come the bass ain't pushing the low end of the kick out? is it basic compression or a bit farther into the fx (explaination would be lovely)? Many thanks you guys!

Probably cause it's a stereo delay which delays the signal hard left and hard right while the kick sits in the center of the mix. And the stereo delay is applied on the top layer of the bass which helps also.

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sounds reasonable. thanks for the explaination!
about the synthssis part, can you guys please get deeper into that part, envlope is cool, not a problem, but the wave and other mods are the problem. can't seem to get the right sound.

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If you listen the main part you hear is not the bass but a mid bass part of the top , there is another bassy part lower down in the mix.

It appears that they both play

KB--(KB)---KB-BK-B- Mid synth part with stereo delay (KB) = kick / bass together

KB-BK-B-KB-BK-B-

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