Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Melbourne, Australia
The current state of our health care system: Worthwhile Discussion Series Part 1
so 5 people have unfortunately passed away due to some bungles in nursing homes in the last day or so. what do people think of the state of nursing homes? every now and again it seems that something major goes wrong and you get the feeling that in some of these places the people working there just dont give a shit. i think it is a pretty sad state of affairs when people who have been through so much in their life need this level of help and the system that is there to give it can't cope or doesn't work. my family hasn't had much experience with nursing homes, only for temporary things while my grandparents recovered from hospital, that kind of thing, but they seemed to be ok. has anyone else had any experiences with this kind of thing? or has anyone worked in one? i guess with the private running of these things there will probably always be a couple of bad eggs in the bunch and unfortunately these things happen. perhaps there should be more government control on this? has the government moved to privitisation of too many essential services? perhaps that could be the subject of the next worthwhile discussion.
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i do not have trance nutters permission to post this so it may be considered an unofficial bootleg worthwhile discussion so no need to reply if it bothers you.
Apr-17-2007 01:53
pkcRAISTLIN
arbiter's chief minion
Registered: Jul 2002
Location:
i dont care about old people.
do you have a link concerning the deaths? i thought the jury was still out on the cause, thus the blame?
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Apr-17-2007 01:56
Light The Fuse
Training Tranceaddicts
Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Fist Pumping, Au
one of my ganma's goes has alzheimers and goes to daycare at that joint.
jules can you describe what its like at that particular place seeing as your grandma is there?
Apr-17-2007 02:04
Light The Fuse
Training Tranceaddicts
Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Fist Pumping, Au
its in camberwell - costs a fortune and looks pretty swish.
shes only been in there bout 2 months but yeah as she gets worse, care is gunna have to be more fulltime- doubt itll be there tho
ahhh ok. thanks. i guess it depends on the actual cause of the outbreak. the reason they died i would argue would be due to their age and inability to cope with a foreign invader.
im not sure we can immediately assume its the fault of the establishment just yet.
its ridiculous that modern medicine keeps people alive at a point where they need constant care. fuck nursing homes, i plan to go out in style.
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Apr-17-2007 02:16
narcism
faithless fangirl
Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Let go of my mind
nursing home= god's waiting room
that is all
Apr-17-2007 05:35
kittn
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Hobart
My mother in law works in a nursing home and is very dedicated, and I don't think she's unusual there.
My grandmother, who had dementia, died a fortnight ago in a nursing home after falling (possibly after having a stroke) and breaking her wrists, and then subsequently having another stroke. Although I never visited her there, my mother and aunt were very satisfied with the level of care and concern displayed by the staff.
Food poisoning though - that's something caused by the kitchen staff, not the nursing staff. Obviously there's an overlying management issue but mistakes with food handling happen everywhere. There's just less margin for error when you're dealing with old and/or infirm people.
And I see your point pkc but it's not the modern medicine which kept my grandmother alive until she went into the home at the age of 87, it was good genetics, a reasonable diet, and sheer bloody-mindedness. What's the alternative to nursing homes? Euthanasia?? You can't just knock people off once they need care.
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Apr-17-2007 07:31
Philby
Statement: Die, meatbag!
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Melbourne, Australia
yep mistakes happen all the time, but now with allegations that staff were told to backdate food products and safety forms, it seems like these mistakes could have easily been avoided.
trance nutter where are you???
Apr-19-2007 13:32
narcism
faithless fangirl
Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Let go of my mind
quote:
Originally posted by Philby
yep mistakes happen all the time, but now with allegations that staff were told to backdate food products and safety forms, it seems like these mistakes could have easily been avoided.
trance nutter where are you???
nursing homes/hospitals they are all the same shit, try to cut corners to save some more money for the share holders (private of course)
Private health insurance is a joke, said it once, will continue to stick by it.... as for the cover up, of course they are trying to save what little left they have to save
Apr-19-2007 13:55
Philby
Statement: Die, meatbag!
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Melbourne, Australia
quote:
Originally posted by narcism
Private health insurance is a joke, said it once, will continue to stick by it....
so what do i do.....i turn 25 in just over 2 months, and even less than that i stop being a full time student, which means i'm not covered by my parents medicare
Apr-19-2007 14:17
narcism
faithless fangirl
Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Let go of my mind
quote:
Originally posted by Philby
so what do i do.....i turn 25 in just over 2 months, and even less than that i stop being a full time student, which means i'm not covered by my parents medicare
nursing homes/hospitals they are all the same shit, try to cut corners to save some more money for the share holders (private of course) 
