get a cheap, regular guitar and Line 6 Guitar Port. That will be alot better than buying some Behringer USB guitar thing-a-magic...

http://www.squierguitars.com/

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If your not really in it to play the thing, get a korg pandora and an epiphone. I don't recommend a squier because they use single coil pickups, any guitar with singles will hum like the buggery (esp with distortion) unless you buy a really good one which is really well designed (expect to spend a few grand). Epiphones are better quality and use humbuckers which use phase cancellation to cancel the 50 Hz hum. Even a cheap humbucker will be cleaner than a mid range single setup.

Guitars are extremely cheap, you could get a nice statocaster, a telecaster, or a les paul, all of which the pro's use for probably less than £500

Guitars are extremely cheap, you could get a nice statocaster, a telecaster, or a les paul, all of which the pro's use for probably less than £500

Guitars are extremely cheap, you could get a nice statocaster, a telecaster, or a les paul, all of which the pro's use for probably less than £500

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Originally posted by kitphillips If your not really in it to play the thing, get a korg pandora and an epiphone. I don't recommend a squier because they use single coil pickups, any guitar with singles will hum like the buggery (esp with distortion) unless you buy a really good one which is really well designed (expect to spend a few grand). Epiphones are better quality and use humbuckers which use phase cancellation to cancel the 50 Hz hum. Even a cheap humbucker will be cleaner than a mid range single setup.

This is rubbish, Squires work fine with distortion. Just because a guitar uses single pickups does not make it shit. The choice between single and humbucker pickups comes down to personal taste. a single coil will give a harsher , sharper sound, while a humbucker will give a warmer feel. also positioning of the pickups is a factor.
Single pickups are no good for distortion? so why then is the Fender Stratocaster the most popular rock guitar of all time ? hmmm.
Epiphones are perhaps slightly better quality than Squires but they are still cack in the guitar world. what you want is to look for the brands Fender or Gibson , not Squire or Epiphone, Epiphone is a cheaper version of Gibson and Squire a cheaper version of Fender.
as for paying a few grand for a guitar?!! not here in the UK, you can get a nice quality Fender strat for about £300 and a Gibson Les Paul for about £500, if your lucky you can pick up a telecaster for about £200. these are all top quality guitars exactly the same as the pro's use. If anyone is trying to charge you 3 grand for a guitar they are ripping you off. Unless 1. Its signed by john lennon/once belonged to john lennon etc or 2. It is a limited edition (will be the same quality just looks diff).

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Originally posted by Roberttodd This is rubbish, Squires work fine with distortion. Just because a guitar uses single pickups does not make it shit. The choice between single and humbucker pickups comes down to personal taste. a single coil will give a harsher , sharper sound, while a humbucker will give a warmer feel. also positioning of the pickups is a factor. Single pickups are no good for distortion? so why then is the Fender Stratocaster the most popular rock guitar of all time ? hmmm. Epiphones are perhaps slightly better quality than Squires but they are still cack in the guitar world. what you want is to look for the brands Fender or Gibson , not Squire or Epiphone, Epiphone is a cheaper version of Gibson and Squire a cheaper version of Fender. as for paying a few grand for a guitar?!! not here in the UK, you can get a nice quality Fender strat for about £300 and a Gibson Les Paul for about £500, if your lucky you can pick up a telecaster for about £200. these are all top quality guitars exactly the same as the pro's use. If anyone is trying to charge you 3 grand for a guitar they are ripping you off. Unless 1. Its signed by john lennon/once belonged to john lennon etc or 2. It is a limited edition (will be the same quality just looks diff).

Gawd, OK I'll ignore your confrontational tone and try and be polite:
1/ I did not say that single coils or guitars with single coils are shit. I said that squiers are shit. If you play guitar (and from your tone I hope to hell you do) you would know that a good CHEAP (which was a specific request) guitars with single coils are very very rare.
2/ it is very hard to make a single coil pickup which does not hum. Therefore I suggest a humbucker. This guy doesn't play, he probably doesnt have a preference, he probably does care if his new guitar hums a lot.
3/ I was talking american dollars. I wouldn't buy any fender less than an emerican standard (mexicans are hardly better than squiers) In which case you're looking at over a grand. Which this guy doesnt want to spend!
5/ Pros don't play mexican fenders. Sorry, maybe the guy in the shop told you they did? They don't. They all actually play custom shop jobs or signatures. Unless by pro you mean the guy down at the open mic with his customised squier (customized in this sense meaning with added stickers)
6/ the fender strat is not the most popular rock guitar of all time. Have you done a survey? It sure sounds like it. Maybe you should spend less time asking people their preferences and more time playing. Maybe then you would know that your squier sounds like shit and plays even worse.

As I said, I'm not bagging out single coils. I actually prefer them for the stuff I play, but cheap single coils are a no no. And Epiphone BTW is one guitar brand that I have a great deal of faith in. They are in this guys price range and are quite good quality. Please try not to jump down my throat an please learn to do currency conversions. 500 pounds is about 1500 australian dollars so half your whining was without cause.
To the original poster: also look at a brand called ESP they're made in Korea but they look really great and feel and sound good as well, maybe one of these would be in your price range?

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Originally posted by kitphillips Gawd, OK I'll ignore your confrontational tone and try and be polite: 1/ I did not say that single coils or guitars with single coils are shit. I said that squiers are shit. If you play guitar (and from your tone I hope to hell you do) you would know that a good CHEAP (which was a specific request) guitars with single coils are very very rare. 2/ it is very hard to make a single coil pickup which does not hum. Therefore I suggest a humbucker. This guy doesn't play, he probably doesnt have a preference, he probably does care if his new guitar hums a lot. 3/ I was talking american dollars. I wouldn't buy any fender less than an emerican standard (mexicans are hardly better than squiers) In which case you're looking at over a grand. Which this guy doesnt want to spend! 5/ Pros don't play mexican fenders. Sorry, maybe the guy in the shop told you they did? They don't. They all actually play custom shop jobs or signatures. Unless by pro you mean the guy down at the open mic with his customised squier (customized in this sense meaning with added stickers) 6/ the fender strat is not the most popular rock guitar of all time. Have you done a survey? It sure sounds like it. Maybe you should spend less time asking people their preferences and more time playing. Maybe then you would know that your squier sounds like shit and plays even worse. As I said, I'm not bagging out single coils. I actually prefer them for the stuff I play, but cheap single coils are a no no. And Epiphone BTW is one guitar brand that I have a great deal of faith in. They are in this guys price range and are quite good quality. Please try not to jump down my throat an please learn to do currency conversions. 500 pounds is about 1500 australian dollars so half your whining was without cause. To the original poster: also look at a brand called ESP they're made in Korea but they look really great and feel and sound good as well, maybe one of these would be in your price range?

so your saying pro's dont use fender strats? remember eric clapton?
who mentioned mexico?
How do you know this guys price range? I was making the point that in general guitars are so cheap that there really is no need to buy a cheaper model such as your crappy epiphone.
pro's dont all play custom shop jobs or signitures, a pro will play any guitar he can get that he likes, some play custom shop jobs, some play an old battered jaguar they picked up from a car boot sale while gigging to pay them through university. Its all about feel and action.
You were ripping it out of Squire while at the same time championing Epiphone as though it were a Gibson.
you say `the guy in the shop told you` as though your some kind of pro yourself, yet you play a sneid epiphone and not a real Gibson.

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Originally posted by Roberttodd so your saying pro's dont use fender strats? remember eric clapton? who mentioned mexico? How do you know this guys price range? I was making the point that in general guitars are so cheap that there really is no need to buy a cheaper model such as your crappy epiphone. pro's dont all play custom shop jobs or signitures, a pro will play any guitar he can get that he likes, some play custom shop jobs, some play an old battered jaguar they picked up from a car boot sale while gigging to pay them through university. Its all about feel and action. You were ripping it out of Squire while at the same time championing Epiphone as though it were a Gibson. you say `the guy in the shop told you` as though your some kind of pro yourself, yet you play a sneid epiphone and not a real Gibson.

did you ever maybe this guy wants the guitar to hum? humbuckers are best for clean sounds, he said he wanted somthing dirty. whats your obsession with hum