I don't know if we are deliberately trying to do so, but we seem to be doing a good job, especially in Iraq.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers I don't know if we are deliberately trying to do so, but we seem to be doing a good job, especially in Iraq.

I dont think we are trying to weaken Islam in Iraq. I think Iraqis are weaken Islam. I think Islam is weaken itself with their backwards mentality, at least the extremists are. Its easier to blame everything on the U.S at this point, and people fall for it because of all the things that are happening.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kapedan
I dont think we are trying to weaken Islam in Iraq. I think Iraqis are weaken Islam. I think Islam is weaken itself with their backwards mentality, at least the extremists are. Its easier to blame everything on the U.S at this point, and people fall for it because of all the things that are happening. [/QUOTE

It's clearly a war on Islam when the terrorists are "muslim/islamic terrorists". I mean come on it's their religion and not the idealogy that matters right? It doesn't matter WHAT the fuck they are fighting for? As long as "we think they are here to destroy "our" freedom". The same freedom that makes you a fucking slave... that has the government looking over your shoulder because of every move you make. That has me and you working for 60+ years of our lives and has nothing guaranteed when it comes to social security. The same system that let Katrina and 9/11 happen. Damn even the Frenchies knew about the attack 9 months before it happened. And we don't have our own problems?? LOL

Oh don't blame the US because it's waging a war against "terror" which is spread by "muslim/islamic" regimes. Don't blame the US and the West for their support for the war in Iraq - which is again killing Muslims and don't blame the US because Israel is in existence on Arab land and gets funded yearly by the US and again kills Muslims on a daily routine. Don't blame the US which nuked an entire fucking nation... God bless America.

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Originally posted by Kapedan I dont think we are trying to weaken Islam in Iraq.

Like I said, I doubt we are deliberately trying to weaken Islam. You are replying as if I said otherwise.

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I think Iraqis are weaken Islam. I think Islam is weaken itself with their backwards mentality, at least the extremists are. Its easier to blame everything on the U.S at this point, and people fall for it because of all the things that are happening.

If we didn't invade Iraq, the Iraqis wouldn't be doing such horrendous things. Yes, there were underlying problems which we didn't see (At least our "Genius" administration didn't ), but instead of ridding Iraqis of there "problems" in one swoop, we should have let things occur naturally, and things would have been FAR less chaotic than they are now.

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Originally posted by digitul punk [QUOTE]Originally posted by Kapedano I dont think we are trying to weaken Islam in Iraq. I think Iraqis are weaken Islam. I think Islam is weaken itself with their backwards mentality, at least the extremists are. Its easier to blame everything on the U.S at this point, and people fall for it because of all the things that are happening. [/QUOTE It's clearly a war on Islam when the terrorists are "muslim/islamic terrorists". I mean come on it's their religion and not the idealogy that matters right? It doesn't matter WHAT the fuck they are fighting for? As long as "we think they are here to destroy "our" freedom". The same freedom that makes you a fucking slave... that has the government looking over your shoulder because of every move you make. That has me and you working for 60+ years of our lives and has nothing guaranteed when it comes to social security. The same system that let Katrina and 9/11 happen. Damn even the Frenchies knew about the attack 9 months before it happened. And we don't have our own problems?? LOL Oh don't blame the US because it's waging a war against "terror" which is spread by "muslim/islamic" regimes. Don't blame the US and the West for their support for the war in Iraq - which is again killing Muslims and don't blame the US because Israel is in existence on Arab land and gets funded yearly by the US and again kills Muslims on a daily routine. Don't blame the US which nuked an entire fucking nation... God bless America.

So who do you wanna blame?

You can be pissed about the war in Iraq, but I dont think it should justify your opinion on how America is in a war a against Islam. I think only radicals would think such thing.

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Originally posted by Kapedan So who do you wanna blame? You can be pissed about the war in Iraq, but I dont think it should justify your opinion on how America is in a war a against Islam. I think only radicals would think such thing.

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/


I don't call that radical.

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British believe Bush is more dangerous than Kim Jong-il · US allies think Washington threat to world peace · Only Bin Laden feared more in United Kingdom Julian Glover Friday November 3, 2006 The Guardian America is now seen as a threat to world peace by its closest neighbours and allies, according to an international survey of public opinion published today that reveals just how far the country's reputation has fallen among former supporters since the invasion of Iraq. Carried out as US voters prepare to go to the polls next week in an election dominated by the war, the research also shows that British voters see George Bush as a greater danger to world peace than either the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-il, or the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Both countries were once cited by the US president as part of an "axis of evil", but it is Mr Bush who now alarms voters in countries with traditionally strong links to the US. The survey has been carried out by the Guardian in Britain and leading newspapers in Israel (Haaretz), Canada (La Presse and Toronto Star) and Mexico (Reforma), using professional local opinion polling in each country. It exposes high levels of distrust. In Britain, 69% of those questioned say they believe US policy has made the world less safe since 2001, with only 7% thinking action in Iraq and Afghanistan has increased global security. The finding is mirrored in America's immediate northern and southern neighbours, Canada and Mexico, with 62% of Canadians and 57% of Mexicans saying the world has become more dangerous because of US policy. Even in Israel, which has long looked to America to guarantee national security, support for the US has slipped. Only one in four Israeli voters say that Mr Bush has made the world safer, outweighed by the number who think he has added to the risk of international conflict, 36% to 25%. A further 30% say that at best he has made no difference. Voters in three of the four countries surveyed also overwhelmingly reject the decision to invade Iraq, with only Israeli voters in favour, 59% to 34% against. Opinion against the war has hardened strongly since a similar survey before the US presidential election in 2004. In Britain 71% of voters now say the invasion was unjustified, a view shared by 89% of Mexicans and 73% of Canadians. Canada is a Nato member whose troops are in action in Afghanistan. Neither do voters think America has helped advance democracy in developing countries, one of the justifications for deposing Saddam Hussein. Only 11% of Britons and 28% of Israelis think that has happened. As a result, Mr Bush is ranked with some of his bitterest enemies as a cause of global anxiety. He is outranked by Osama bin Laden in all four countries, but runs the al-Qaida leader close in the eyes of UK voters: 87% think the al-Qaida leader is a great or moderate danger to peace, compared with 75% who think this of Mr Bush. The US leader and close ally of Tony Blair is seen in Britain as a more dangerous man than the president of Iran (62% think he is a danger), the North Korean leader (69%) and the leader of Hizbullah, Hassan Nasrallah (65%). Only 10% of British voters think that Mr Bush poses no danger at all. Israeli voters remain much more trusting of him, with 23% thinking he represents a serious danger and 61% thinking he does not. Contrary to the usual expectation, older voters in Britain are slightly more hostile to the Iraq war than younger ones. Voters under 35 are also more trusting of Mr Bush, with hostility strongest among people aged 35-65. · ICM interviewed a random sample of 1,010 adults by telephone from October 27-30. Interviews were conducted across the country and the results have been weighted to the profile of all adults. Polling was by phone in Canada (sample 1,007), Israel (1,078) and Mexico (1,010)

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Last edited by M.Johan on May-05-2007 at 22:53

"More than 70% of Muslims surveyed in a WorldPublicOpinion.org poll believe that the United States' only target is to weaken and divide the Islamic world."

Better to have them fight amongst themselves than blow up our buildings and subways.

"The poll also showed that the majority of those surveyed believed that “human bombings” are unjustified and that Islam is opposed to attacks against civilians."

Well that's good news.

"The surprising news; however, was the uncertainty that the survey showed regarding Al Qaeda being responsible for the U.S. September 11th attacks in 2001. About twenty percent of those surveyed believe that the U.S. government itself was behind the attacks."

I could be wrong here, but didn't Al Qaeda claim responsibility for those attacks???

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