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I believe that illegal immigrants who have roots in our country and want to stay should have to pay a meaningful penalty for breaking the law, to pay their taxes, to learn English, and to work in a job for a number of years. People who meet these conditions should be able to apply for citizenship ... [E.A.]

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Appears Bush is pulling the back taxes out of the bill that was given in his speech about a year ago...

Sounds like a good idea since I'm sure that's one hell of a lot easier than trying to figure it all out to begin with; aka accountants' nightmare.

It makes sense anyways since, even if they're there illegally, they would have paid at least some taxes with all their retail purchases while in the country.

It's a nice olive branch and, I think, a good start for our Southern neighbors...

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If we had the Fair Tax, all the illegal aliens would be paying their taxes at the same rate as everyone else. If they buy anything at the 23% tax rate, there would be no problem with back taxes.

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Bush has always been a middle-ground kind of politician about illegals. he has genuine compassion for them and he'll always put business first.

most Republicans lack that first part, and i think it will hurt the party in the long run to go too conservative on this seeing as how most of the 12 million illegals over here share a lot of conservative values.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r >>Source<< Appears Bush is pulling the back taxes out of the bill that was given in his speech about a year ago... Sounds like a good idea since I'm sure that's one hell of a lot easier than trying to figure it all out to begin with; aka accountants' nightmare. It makes sense anyways since, even if they're there illegally, they would have paid at least some taxes with all their retail purchases while in the country. It's a nice olive branch and, I think, a good start for our Southern neighbors...

All the bill needs to work now is the cooperation of corporations. Lots of companies have told their employees if they go back home to apply for their citizenship as stated in the bill they won't have their job when they get back. Even if someone wants to regularize their status, with such a stringent job market, many will not.

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Orbax At that point you kind of crossed the rubicon and you might as well lay siege to Rome

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Originally posted by Q5echo ... seeing as how most of the 12 million illegals over here share a lot of conservative values.

how?

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd how?

Are you kidding? It's the religion. The Mexicans are stereotypically very devout Catholics.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Are you kidding? It's the religion. The Mexicans are stereotypically very devout Catholics.

Which is a real head scratcher; why would devout Catholic knowingly cross the border illegally...

They must give confession at least twice a week...

throw in a few hail Marys for good measure....

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Which is a real head scratcher; why would devout Catholic knowingly cross the border illegally... They must give confession at least twice a week... throw in a few hail Marys for good measure....

Probably rationalizing like this: Crimes that aren't against God, like breaking made-up borders aren't really crimes, so they don't need to confess...

And before someone says it about my first post, yes, I know, not all 12 million estimated are Mexican, but they're the majority due to their easy access combined with poor homeland conditions.

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Your cash, your house, your phone, your cash, your house, your life" -Adam Freeland - We Want Your Soul

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Probably rationalizing like this: Crimes that aren't against God, like breaking made-up borders aren't really crimes, so they don't need to confess... And before someone says it about my first post, yes, I know, not all 12 million estimated are Mexican, but they're the majority due to their easy access combined with poor homeland conditions.

See, here's the other thing I don't get.
I was under the impression that Mexico was turning itself around for the better?
They're certainly much better off than they were say, 10-20 years ago when the Peso just about collapsed but evidently, not enough for everybody...

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Here's some economic stats for Mexico to prove my point further.

http://www.economist.com/countries/...mic%20Structure

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Carlos Slim is one rich Mexican.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Which is a real head scratcher; why would devout Catholic knowingly cross the border illegally...

Living on the other side of the Rio Grande, I must say I've never noticed any contradiction regarding this situation. Religiously, being an illegal immigrant is not a crime - moving from a country to another is really just like moving from a state to another.

As a matter of fact, no matter how wrong this is politically, I can't consider it an immoral crime either.

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