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Ry Thomas
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How do you calculate(if possible) the EXACT amount of PDC needed in FL7??

Is it twice your latency used?? This seems pretty good for me but i'd like to know if there is a more precise way of finding this out other than guessing in ms's


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The amount you need is entirely dependent on your plugins and/or hardware instruments. It has nothing whatsoever to do with driver latency.

I thought FL had automatic compensation by now. If not, look in the individual plug-in specs, and if there's nothing in there about delay, then either it has no delay or you're stuck with trial-and-error.


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Ry Thomas
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Its for my JP-8080 mate, obviously my software is instantaneous in the sequencer more or less, but hardware has to run through my mixer, then soundcard etc and so other parts within FL have to be offset accordingly with PDC. Ive slowed my track right down to about 20bpm and i think ive more or less got it it spot on but it was just a fart on thats all, still unsure if its 100%


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it's usually the other way around. The audio signal travels pretty damn fast from your synth through your mixer etc. But your vst's take some time to calculate the output sound, so they would be coming after the hardware synths, not before it.


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Ry Thomas
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Yeah it would seem that way mate but ive tried a few things and its defo lag of the synth, weird i know


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I think you're pretty much hosed in FL if you're getting lag from an external source. Cubase pings the instrument to detect latency, as far as I know FL doesn't have such a feature (though I'm sure one of the diehard fans will correct me if I'm wrong).

Anyway, it shouldn't really be that hard, just plop a variable delay in there and tweak it until it sounds right.


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Or increase your driver latency until it is so high that you're comfortable with it



that was weird advice.


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What synth is this? Atmosphere?


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A JP-8080


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