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Gun homicide rates around the world Number of deaths from firearms for every 1,000,000 people in the following countries in 2003: • Brazil: 213 • South Africa: 126 • United States: 41 • Canada: 5.1 • England and Wales: 0.3 • Japan: 0.3

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Maybe an in between, 'Stricter gun control while still allowing civilian gun ownership'?

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Orbax At that point you kind of crossed the rubicon and you might as well lay siege to Rome

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Originally posted by venomX Maybe an in between, 'Stricter gun control while still allowing civilian gun ownership'?

stricter ownership isn't going to stop those that legally obtain guns from going troppo, nor is it going to prevent legally obtained guns from ending up on the black market.

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Nagasaki Mayor Shot Dead

Police in Nagasaki, Japan, have said that the mayor of the city was shot twice in the back whilst leaving his campaign office. He died in the early hours of the morning, Wednesday local time.

Police believed the person responsible for shooting, 61-year-old Itcho Ito, probably was part of a criminal syndicate. Japan's very strict gun control laws mean that most illegal guns are owned by gang members.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070417...oting_repeat_dc

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby Nagasaki Mayor Shot Dead Police in Nagasaki, Japan, have said that the mayor of the city was shot twice in the back whilst leaving his campaign office. He died in the early hours of the morning, Wednesday local time. Police believed the person responsible for shooting, 61-year-old Itcho Ito, probably was part of a criminal syndicate. Japan's very strict gun control laws mean that most illegal guns are owned by gang members. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070417...oting_repeat_dc

what on earth is your point? coz all im hearing is rubbish.

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Japan had the lowest rate, at 0.05 gun deaths per 100,000 (1 per 2 million people). The police in Japan actively raid homes of those suspected of having weapons

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/m...articlekey=6166

if those 0.05 gun deaths is caused by criminals, then im not all that concerned about criminals being armed in a society where nobody else is.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN what on earth is your point? coz all im hearing is rubbish.

lol... daehkcarc

Hahahaha!

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN what on earth is your point?

You need stricter laws that's all only allow low power rifles and shotguns. I don't see the point in allowing people to have assualt rifles to protect their property.

Everyone rants on about criminals and guns. What you fail to notice are the shooters who are slaughtering their fellow colleagues and students, are normal people their not career criminals and gangsters etc.

People need to get over these view of criminals and guns. Yes they'll always be able to access guns, just like the access stolen cars, credit cards, boats and drugs etc. What everyone fails to pick up on is most of these nutcases running around like rambo are your normal joe average with acute psychological problems.

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Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan You need stricter laws that's all only allow low power rifles and shotguns. I don't see the point in allowing people to have assualt rifles to protect their property.

But they're so effective!!! You have any idea how many gang members you can take on with that?!?!

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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People need to get over these view of criminals and guns. Yes they'll always be able to access guns, just like the access stolen cars, credit cards, boats and drugs etc. What everyone fails to pick up on is most of these nutcases running around like rambo are your normal joe average with acute psychological problems.

Exactly, these shootings aren't performed by hardened criminals who obtain their weapons via the black market, they're obtained by pissed off, angry, depressed people who just snap one day and lash out with the closest means possible. How many lives are saved if they reach into the draw and pull out a knife instead of a gun?

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Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan You need stricter laws that's all only allow low power rifles and shotguns. I don't see the point in allowing people to have assualt rifles to protect their property.

No, we should have the right to arm ourselves, you never know when a revolution will come and every man and woman will take up arms...

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Everyone rants on about criminals and guns. What you fail to notice are the shooters who are slaughtering their fellow colleagues and students, are normal people their not career criminals and gangsters etc.

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People need to get over these view of criminals and guns. Yes they'll always be able to access guns, just like the access stolen cars, credit cards, boats and drugs etc. What everyone fails to pick up on is most of these nutcases running around like rambo are your normal joe average with acute psychological problems.

Or psycho crazed latinos with attitude!! You Know... Hispanic Causing Panic

I could agree with you my lil O'Pikey O'Pal of Mine
I could...... if lets say, the incident in VT happened every month or so... but this is an isolated event, and remember, the USA is nothing like Europe or the Middle East. Our police force is adequate enough to keep the laws in order.
Plus also this event in VT is an isolated event in history, we can start talking gun control once shit hits the fan... but even then, you would have to pry my gun out of my dead cold hands...... I know, typical american gung ho attitude from the state of Texas.... but think, if the shit hit, who would you feel safe with, a young naive college kid filled with ideals of Colorful, Every One Loves one another Utopian outlook toward the world. Or someone that can protect your ass when the time comes to stand up and fight for your life?


Wow did I just explain both World Wars??