IMO the India-Pakistan rivalry is partly to be blamed for this. Look who's irked. The pakistani MPs. Nobody else is saying anything..atleast, it's not big news yet. But now all the islamic states will join in the condemnation. They get one more reason to bitch about the West.

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Originally posted by emc^2 just wondering when will "West" finally have the ballz to take the damn gloves off, extend the middle finger to Islamist Extremists and tell them to go pound sand?

Ah the wise words of emc^2! Always good for a laugh!

Pray tell what exatly would you like the UK to do to "extend the middle finger to Islamist Extremists" that we are not already doing?!

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IMHO, a day when Islam is finally and officially declared a religion of extremism and should be dealt with accordingly, could not be a day too soon.

Half the people on my street and area are Muslims, there is a big Mosque round the corner and a large Muslim community surrounding it. Are they all extremists? How should we "deal" with these law-abiding British citizens??

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Originally posted by emc^2 IMHO, a day when Islam is finally and officially declared a religion of extremism and should be dealt with accordingly, could not be a day too soon.

Are you stupid or something? Every religion has its extremists and moderates.

People living in Central Asia and Siberia are moderate Muslims. And some Americans living in the US are Christian extremists that want to kill abortion doctors.

I am totally with you that we should declare ALL religions to be stupid and false. Not just Islam but Christianity can be very dangerous and Judaism can also be dangerous, as you saw after the murder of Itzhak Rabin.

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd Every religion has its extremists and moderates.

That's a piss poor argument you make to defend Islamic militancy. You fail to take into account the scale of violence committed by Islamic extremists as against that committed by other religious extremists. Christian fundamentalists are out to kill abortion doctors. Yeah right...now tell me who all the Islamic extremists are out to kill ? At what level they are ready to take their violence ? how much human blood they are willing to shed for their cause ?

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Originally posted by George Smiley Half the people on my street and area are Muslims, there is a big Mosque round the corner and a large Muslim community surrounding it. Are they all extremists? How should we "deal" with these law-abiding British citizens??

the people who caused london subway/bus bombings were also, on the surface, law-obiding people. they had no previous "record" nor any unusual "flags" that would set the alarms of.

I dare you to name the last incident involving Christian, Buddhist, Jewish, Dharmic, or even atheist suicide bomber. Please tell me the last time you saw a NON-MUSLIM person cutting someone's head off and posting it on the Internet for everyone to view.

I'm literally on the edge of my seat, waiting for you to tell me when was the last time a woman was stoned by family and neighbors, in a western nation, in a broad daylight in the street for being raped. I would love for you to demonstrate when Danish publishers demanded muslim killings for disagreeing with their veiws of prophet mohammed.

You're full of sh!t and your head is stuck so deep up your arse, I think the only way to dislodge it is to have you ride a subway with a suicide bomber next to you. Just the two of you, just swaying along with the cart... when BOOOOM! well, you get my point.

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd Are you stupid or something? Every religion has its extremists and moderates.

yet none are as prominent as Islamic radicals. Check your facts jack, quit being so naive and soft-hearted.

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No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don’t want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd Are you stupid or something? Every religion has its extremists and moderates. People living in Central Asia and Siberia are moderate Muslims.

LOL. Islam is not an indigenous religion in siberia like it is in C.A or did you believe they were muslims because they are china looking men like in C.A? Learn your geography. The majority of people in siberia are christian or practice some indigenous sh!t that isn't muslim called Shamanism.

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Originally posted by emc^2 yet none are as prominent as Islamic radicals. Check your facts jack, quit being so naive and soft-hearted.

What is your ethnicity, man? Anyways yeah islam radicals are the new nazis's. It's very very scary.

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Originally posted by George Smiley Half the people on my street and area are Muslims, there is a big Mosque round the corner and a large Muslim community surrounding it. Are they all extremists? How should we "deal" with these law-abiding British citizens??

P.s. I'd be willing to bet a decent chunk of money that there's at least a few in the very same community that are currently either thinking or planning or at the very least sympathetic to jihad cause. It's not a question of "if". It's a question of "when". I hope I'm wrong, though. The very nature of religion permits this. It promotes killing, blodshed, and simple disregard for human life.

You can't convince me that "moderates" is what I should be paying attention to. I'm sure you'd agree we're not at war with "moderates"... I also hope you're not as daft as you would have us believe. Actually... who am I kidding. Of course you are.

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No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don’t want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.

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Originally posted by Omega_M That's a piss poor argument you make to defend Islamic militancy.

Who the fuck is defending Islamic militancy?!

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Originally posted by emc^2 the people who caused london subway/bus bombings were also, on the surface, law-obiding people. they had no previous "record" nor any unusual "flags" that would set the alarms of.

No shit Sherlock. Now explain why we should view all Muslims as extremists?

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I dare you to name the last incident involving Christian, Buddhist, Jewish, Dharmic, or even atheist suicide bomber. Please tell me the last time you saw a NON-MUSLIM person cutting someone's head off and posting it on the Internet for everyone to view.

What difference do the methods used to kill make? Manchester city centre was devestated by Nationalist terrorists from Northern Ireland and many people died, what difference does it make whether they put the bomb in a bin or under their shirt?

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I'm literally on the edge of my seat, waiting for you to tell me when was the last time a woman was stoned by family and neighbors, in a western nation, in a broad daylight in the street for being raped. I would love for you to demonstrate when Danish publishers demanded muslim killings for disagreeing with their veiws of prophet mohammed.

Can you explain to me why you are so keen to convince everyone that all Muslims are extremists? This seems to be a bit of reoccurring theme with your posts - care to explain?

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You're full of sh!t and your head is stuck so deep up your arse, I think the only way to dislodge it is to have you ride a subway with a suicide bomber next to you. Just the two of you, just swaying along with the cart... when BOOOOM! well, you get my point.

Your problem is that you are 10 years old and have sneaked onto your mum's computer when she wasn't looking. And if you're not 10 years ols I suggest you start acting like it because as you may have noticed, not a lot of people take you very seriously.

Now, for the last time, if you want to debate Islamic extremists then fine, but as soon as you attempt to portray every Muslim on Earth as being an extremists then you have no argument, there will be no debate, and instead, you will be viewed as the bigot that you are.