I'm hearing some improvements over the last track I looked at. Your kick is strong. That's good. The tones of the voices sound decent. I really like the way you seem to be dabbling in some Goa melody styles in the end. Here are my suggestions.

The idea for the beginning is good but you're clipping when that voice
gets to the peak of its swell at the beginning. Also clipping in other places as well. Lower the levels on each individual track. I would put each track at half volume or so when you're bouncing them together. You can always add volume later. If you clip when you're mixing, you can't undo that.

Something's out of sync with your lead voice in the first clip that it plays. It sounds like you recorded the lead playing it on a keyboard and your software quantized it to the wrong place rhythmically.

Your bass is playing some sour notes when put together with the lead voice later on.

It sounds like you're trying to do a fill on your drums at the end of each bar. I'm talking about where it "stutter-steps" a little bit. Don't do a fill for each bar. It's too disruptive. Do a fill every 8 bars. Be minimal in the rhythmical modifications you make in your fill. Don't change too much or it throws the whole thing off. People need to be able to shake their ass steadily throughout your song. Anything that causes them to stop moving kills your song. A fill prevents your repetition from becoming too monotonous but it must be used sparingly and as part of a pattern. I usually just change up my kick and my snare in the fill.

Fill example:
Kick: X---X---X---X-XX
Snare:----X-------XX--

In general, you should keep things the same in your song for either 4, 8, or 16 bars at a time. Then only change one thing at a time. You could maybe change the drums slightly and add or take out something else at the same time but try to be smooth in how you evolve the song. Right now, you're changing too quickly. As soon as the listener gets used to something, you jump to something else.

Keep on working at it. This sounds better than a whole lot of stuff that I've made. Making trance is like climbing a never-ending mountain. You keep on thinking you're at the top but then you see an even taller peak behind it.

Peace, Agent Starchild

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Tracks-in-progress (Please help me make these better):
Eve of the Invasion
The Realm of Possibility

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Originally posted by AgentStarchild I'm hearing some improvements over the last track I looked at. Your kick is strong. That's good. The tones of the voices sound decent. I really like the way you seem to be dabbling in some Goa melody styles in the end. Here are my suggestions. The idea for the beginning is good but you're clipping when that voice gets to the peak of its swell at the beginning. Also clipping in other places as well. Lower the levels on each individual track. I would put each track at half volume or so when you're bouncing them together. You can always add volume later. If you clip when you're mixing, you can't undo that. Something's out of sync with your lead voice in the first clip that it plays. It sounds like you recorded the lead playing it on a keyboard and your software quantized it to the wrong place rhythmically. Your bass is playing some sour notes when put together with the lead voice later on. It sounds like you're trying to do a fill on your drums at the end of each bar. I'm talking about where it "stutter-steps" a little bit. Don't do a fill for each bar. It's too disruptive. Do a fill every 8 bars. Be minimal in the rhythmical modifications you make in your fill. Don't change too much or it throws the whole thing off. People need to be able to shake their ass steadily throughout your song. Anything that causes them to stop moving kills your song. A fill prevents your repetition from becoming too monotonous but it must be used sparingly and as part of a pattern. I usually just change up my kick and my snare in the fill. Fill example: Kick: X---X---X---X-XX Snare:----X-------XX-- In general, you should keep things the same in your song for either 4, 8, or 16 bars at a time. Then only change one thing at a time. You could maybe change the drums slightly and add or take out something else at the same time but try to be smooth in how you evolve the song. Right now, you're changing too quickly. As soon as the listener gets used to something, you jump to something else. Keep on working at it. This sounds better than a whole lot of stuff that I've made. Making trance is like climbing a never-ending mountain. You keep on thinking you're at the top but then you see an even taller peak behind it. Peace, Agent Starchild

First of all thank u for a great feedback. Sec im not getting the cliping thing (Dont know what it means.)Would be nice if u could explain clip. But I think I have made a few improvments now. I have added a few Fx´s and redone the kick, snares a bit to. But can u realy master a song. Don´t know if it works for me i always think there is something I can make better or change. O well here it is again Enjoy!

All I mean by clipping is that the sound gets too loud which makes my speakers make unpleasant sounds kind of like when somebody with a mic steps in front of a speaker. So just turn everything down before you mix it. Peace, Agent

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Agent Starchild
Durham, NC, USA

Those who share the wealth of their knowledge will end up far wealthier and more loved. Those who use their knowledge as a throne from which to sneer at others will never have a true friend.

Tracks-in-progress (Please help me make these better):
Eve of the Invasion
The Realm of Possibility

By the way, not to be anal but I want you to know the terminology. When you use the word "master" in talking about an electronic music song or really any recorded song, people will assume you're talking about a very specific process that involves fine-tuning the overall sound of it by making tiny changes in the volumes of various frequencies of bass and treble. So it makes you look newbie when you use that word outside of its music engineering meaning.

I don't think anybody has ever "mastered" the art of making electronic music. I've spent about 15-20 hours a week for the past three years trying to work on my beats. I've got more than a hundred tracks I made that made me think I had finally made it. Right now I'm completely embarrassed by everything I made before this June. In December, the crap I'm making now will look childish to me.

That's just the way this whole thing works. You climb one mountain to find that you're at the foot of another. Enjoy the discoveries - they are the true beauty - but don't ever tell yourself you're the bomb because then you'll feel like crap when you figure out that you've still got a ways to go.

Peace out, Agent Starchild

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Agent Starchild
Durham, NC, USA

Those who share the wealth of their knowledge will end up far wealthier and more loved. Those who use their knowledge as a throne from which to sneer at others will never have a true friend.

Tracks-in-progress (Please help me make these better):
Eve of the Invasion
The Realm of Possibility