i just wanted to tell all of u that ive been in London for the seventh time in my life a few days ago.
and just for ur knowledge- i was shit ass scared to walk in the streets.
i know some of you also doubt the israeli action against the palestinians in the west bank.
but with every moment that i saw someone with an islamic or arabic image i just felt the fear going through my body. some of u may call it racsim but, me and many of my friends who fell like this when they were abroad in the past few weeks, call it war shock.
i never thought until that weekend that this intifada will ever affect me but it did.
i was afraid that in some moment when i was in mcdonalds or at HMV someone will go in and blow himself up in the store.
so i ask u ppl to plz try and understand our actions and see from our side how we deal with this war bcz i dont just think- i know that u could have never deal with this kind of cruel terror.
today 13 elite soldiers of the IDF were killed by terrorists who killed thier own ppl when they blew up in the centre of Jenin refugee camp.
Apr-09-2002 20:31
AnotherWay83
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Registered: Aug 2000
Location: land of d(-_-)b
maybe if i was in ur place i would think the same way, or may i wouldn't i dont know....yeah it was sad 13 soldiers got killed...also 100+ palestinians have been killed...that whole place is just full of hatred
i think u should've posted this in the 'we're going to war thread'...but what the hell who cares...
Apr-10-2002 05:16
cweb
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: hasle, switzerland
Re: Intifada 2002
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today 13 elite soldiers of the IDF were killed
Oh heaven forbid! those poorly israelis....
hundreds of Palestinians are killed and no one gives a rat ass about it, then some soldiers die and there's almost a moment of silence startet. Oh I forgot, the Palis are the BAAAAD and the Israelis are like angels, sorry...
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Apr-10-2002 16:29
Tranex02
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Registered: May 2001
Location: United States
Re: Intifada 2002
quote:
Originally posted by NyKoN
so i ask u ppl to plz try and understand our actions
Those actions being taken cannot be justified.
Again, this is just going in circles...
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Apr-10-2002 16:32
TranceGiant
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: (Strudel)-City that never sleeps
Re: Re: Intifada 2002
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Originally posted by cweb
Oh heaven forbid! those poorly israelis....
hundreds of Palestinians are killed and no one gives a rat ass about it, then some soldiers die and there's almost a moment of silence startet. Oh I forgot, the Palis are the BAAAAD and the Israelis are like angels, sorry...
Shut it, cweb.
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Apr-10-2002 17:00
cweb
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Location: hasle, switzerland
sorry Giant but I absolutely HATE those one-sided-comments...
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Apr-10-2002 17:05
NyKoN
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Kiryat Ono, Israel
u have a one sided mind
those "100 palestininans killed" shit is no good- they fake the death of ppl
did u know that a few days ago- palestinians placed a family in a building filled with bombs? IDF had to bring a special crew to defuse those bombs and rescue the family
anyway- the palestininans fake those so called "war victims" coz the IDF only but only shoots at ppl who shoot at him and only when they have too- were not a cruel army as the media says we are- we dont kill poor small palestinians every day, we capture terrorists and dont even kill them as the US did- we chain them and take them by bus to investigation
Apr-10-2002 20:07
Hell_Copter
UplifTingHaRdTrancEAddicT
Registered: Nov 2001
Location: israel
can it cweb cause u don't know shit
yes u hear about 100 palestiniens that "got" killed... but what u don't know is that those shitheads doesn't even bury their so called "victims" just to show the world media that we are bad.
our media is not allowed to go in there and take photographs overthere and that way u see only one side in the news... so don't tell me about one sided comments cause that's exactly what you r doing!!!!
oh and another thing... did u know that most of those palestiniens who got killed were not innocent humans??? most of them were harmful terrorists that we must have take down in order to decrease the amounts of killing suicides in our cities.
just today a bus exploded and 8 people were killed... but u don't hear about that in the media don't u!?!?!
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Apr-10-2002 21:03
trancaholic
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Aalborg
quote:
Originally posted by NyKoN
...the IDF only but only shoots at ppl who shoot at him and only when they have too-
Then please explain how 7 unarmed foreign "peace guards" got shot last week?
This is thread number five on this subject. I appreciate that you are living in something approximating hell, but please stop posting your propaganda in the chill out room. Obviously some people here do not agree that Israel is an (please note I'm not writing "the") innocent part, and your threads are not persuading them, only annoying/provoking them.
And yes, Hell_Copter, we did hear about the bus-bombing today. It's a damn shame that ignorant people singlehandedly are allowed to decide the political agenda - be they Jewish settlers or Palestenian suicide bombers
Apr-10-2002 21:26
tranzformer
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Location
I stand behind Israel 100%, and I know many other Americans do also. The problem witht the Palastinians is that they believe and think that they can blow up innocent civilians without bearing the costs of their actions. The key word is INNOCENT. When was the last time you heard of an Israeli going to a Palastinian shopping mall and mowing down 100's of innocent shoppers with machine gun fire? When was the last time that you heard of an Israeli blowing himself up in a Palastinian elementary school? Israeli's don't do shit like that becuase they realize how cruel and immoral such actions are. If you are willing to send out suicide bombers, then be ready to defend yourself when you find yourself in a shit hole. When that happens don't start crying about how unfair it is. "For avery action there is equal reaction." So when the Arabs try to screw around with the Israeli's, the Israel's have all the right to defend themselves, and take all necessary steps to protect them in the future. Every other nation would do the exact same thing. Lets say a group of of Colombian suicide bombers were hired by the governement to go and blow themselves up in the major cities of Brazil. If something like that happend, it would be a sign of war. No civilized nation would ever turn their back on such a action and let it pass without some sort of punishment or response. So all in all, go Israel, and if you need help killing those animals give me a call and I'll come packing with my Uzi.
That's just my 2 cents.
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Apr-10-2002 21:43
tranzformer
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Location
Oh yeah, the other thing that I forgot to mention is that Israel pretty much has the whole world agaisnt it, except for its best friend the U.S. Osama (kiss my ass) bin Laden and other leaders of terrorist groups like Hamas, vow that they wont give up untill the Jews are thrown out of the Middle East and are determinated from the world. So, if Israel justs sits back and folds its hands, guess who's going to be incharge of that area? The Arabs. So really this is a fight for the survival of the Israeli state which was created by the UN. Because of this, I think that having tanks rollin' through the streets is fine (eventhough they aren't mine), as long as they don't start targeting innocent people and using innocent people who just want peace as collateral.
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Apr-10-2002 21:52
cweb
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: hasle, switzerland
Lol, superb comments here
I suggest that you people dont just read and believe waht your stupid "leader" and your media says. Who do you rather believe? Amnesty international or Ariel "war criminal" Sharon? Of course sharon, because amnesty Int. is all about propaganda...
Btw: My comments seemed often one-sided because I do critic the Israelis more often than the Palis but thats just because her are several Israelis and Americans showing up who comment one-sided but I very few Palestinians or Arabs who comment one-side the other way, you can count them on one hand. Its obvious that the Palestinians are not angels, but hey, almost everyone know that wheras the Israelis are often seen as self-defenders what ever.
Sharon must go!
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