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Ted Promo
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Does anyone have a link to an RIAA-related article...

the one where it talks about how they are going out and attempting to regulate cover bands that play for free and fining them and the owner of the place they are playing at?

Other RIAA articles are welcomed as well, anything you find particularly interesting regarding their regulation of illegal proliferation of music. Yes, I'm doing a project for my college speech class and my final is over the RIAA and their over zealous campaign to end illegal music downloading/playing.

Thanks in advance.

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MrJiveBoJingles
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Here's one:

http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pb.../707080343/1006

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Ghost Raver
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Don't know if this helps but http://www.afterdawn.com/news/ has some articles on RIAA and all they things they've been doing. Helps a lot if you put "RIAA" in the search field that can be found in the middle of that page.

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Ted Promo
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sweet, thanks for the links

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Psionic
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I hate those assholes. They specifically target people who can't afford their incredible lawsuits (i.e. broke college students) and then "settle" outside of court for a few thousand while everyone else gets off scot free. Fuckin' vultures

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Ted Promo
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quote:
Originally posted by Psionic
I hate those assholes. They specifically target people who can't afford their incredible lawsuits (i.e. broke college students) and then "settle" outside of court for a few thousand while everyone else gets off scot free. Fuckin' vultures


To be honest, it seems they focus on broke college students who use outdated versions of Kazaa to download the latest Rihanna songs.

In a sense, we're safe.

Should I think downloading music for free be illegal? I'm not too sure honestly. I mean, the legal downloading of music doesn't accumulate much (if any) money for the artists, but doesn't it accumulate money for the record labels whom release the artist's material? Shouldn't the record label be compensated for the release? If free music downloading were made entirely legal, what would happen to record labels as we know them?

There will always be a market for tangible product (like vinyls, cds, etc.), but would that market be strong enough to survive if free music downloading were made entirely legal? I doubt it.

I am opposed to the stringent policing RIAA has induced. And overall, I am for the legality of it as it seems there's no real way to police it with any viable end in sight (just like a war on drugs), it also seems to bind human creativity on adapting what was made before. Case and point - the Amen Break.

Proliferation of ideas can, and will continue, but the cost and affect of it all is yet to be determined. All I know is that fining cover bands that play for free and the bars that host them is certainly over-stepping a somewhat diluted boundary. How long until after a night at a karaoke you receive a bill in the mail from the RIAA fining you for belting out Celine Dion while one of their operatives was in the vicinity?

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quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
To be honest, it seems they focus on broke college students who use outdated versions of Kazaa to download the latest Rihanna songs.

In a sense, we're safe.

Should I think downloading music for free be illegal? I'm not too sure honestly. I mean, the legal downloading of music doesn't accumulate much (if any) money for the artists, but doesn't it accumulate money for the record labels whom release the artist's material? Shouldn't the record label be compensated for the release? If free music downloading were made entirely legal, what would happen to record labels as we know them?

There will always be a market for tangible product (like vinyls, cds, etc.), but would that market be strong enough to survive if free music downloading were made entirely legal? I doubt it.

I am opposed to the stringent policing RIAA has induced. And overall, I am for the legality of it as it seems there's no real way to police it with any viable end in sight (just like a war on drugs), it also seems to bind human creativity on adapting what was made before. Case and point - the Amen Break.

Proliferation of ideas can, and will continue, but the cost and affect of it all is yet to be determined. All I know is that fining cover bands that play for free and the bars that host them is certainly over-stepping a somewhat diluted boundary. How long until after a night at a karaoke you receive a bill in the mail from the RIAA fining you for belting out Celine Dion while one of their operatives was in the vicinity?


Pretty much sums it up for me.
This is exactly how I feel about this!

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Re: Does anyone have a link to an RIAA-related article...

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
the one where it talks about how they are going out and attempting to regulate cover bands that play for free and fining them and the owner of the place they are playing at?

Other RIAA articles are welcomed as well, anything you find particularly interesting regarding their regulation of illegal proliferation of music. Yes, I'm doing a project for my college speech class and my final is over the RIAA and their over zealous campaign to end illegal music downloading/playing.

Thanks in advance.


Music distribution debate/Piracy Debate/ Artistic Compensation debate aside...


Nazis... Real Nazis...

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Dojomaster26
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The RIAA & ASCAP make it very difficult for some business to start up, with the high cost of licensing on the broadcast of music. I believe that the industry is shooting itself it in the foot by placing draconian restrictions on venues that are trying to promote their songs, whether through DJ-plays of whatever. I would think that being a representative body of the artists, that the association would put forth efforts to allow for more promotion of their assets, instead of over-charging people for the privelege to do so!

I also find it disheartening that out of my money spent on artist CDs and the like, maybe 6% of it (and I'm being generous here) will go to the artist him/herself? The foreign artists I like, such as Utada Hikaru, won't see a penny of my money either

One of these days I should just put a $5 check in the mail and send it directly to BT with a "Thanks for all the great tunes" note. He'll get more money that way than from me buying his whole back catalogue.

BTW Ted, your sig is SO NSFW


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Ted Promo
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quote:
Originally posted by Dojomaster26
maybe 6% of it (and I'm being generous here)


Actually, EXCEEDINGLY generous. In dance music (and I can only assume this can be applied to all other viable forms of music), the average artist sells their track to a label for a lump sum of money, generally up front. After that, they receive no more money at all from the record label whatsoever in royalties. All they may receive is extra promotion from the label which may bolster interest in their future productions or shows. This is why many producers also become djs since they can market shows and make far more money off of shows than they ever could as a producer (that is, unless you become a mover and a shaker like Ferry Corsten or someone of that ilk and can garner enough attention from your productions to make plenty of money from them and begin your own record label).

I'm still somewhat torn from my initial stance, however. Record labels do need to make their money, and illegal file sharing does tend to hinder that very outcome. In any case, RIAA and ASCAP are being highly over-zealous in their campaign against it.

As for my sig, that's the first NSFW complaint I've heard about it. Just turn it off I guess

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for those interested, here's my rough outline so far. Not entirely sure if I'm doing it right so I'll find out tomorrow. Any information you think I should add would be MUCH appreciated, thanks!

http://www.sendspace.com/file/pwavo3

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iammesol
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This thread gets me ready for college.

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