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| quote: | Originally posted by venomX
As a testament to the truth in this article every other thread today has recieved posts except this one. |
The fact it got any replies at all restores a little bit of faith in things. I honestly didn't expect it to get any interest in it what so ever and sincerely thought it would be well and truly buried under US domestic affairs, republican shennanigans, conspiracies and the middle east threads.
Which would be ironic how often we criticise our (often biased) sources of information here in the PDD, but I also understand that people have very little emotional, economic or personal stake in the place.
We're all kind of guilty of that at some level even if it is a nothing more than a polite, curious interest, I for one just simply don't have any emotional, economic or personal interest about the middle east at all, even less with US domestic politics.
I don't even live in Africa any more, but I was born there, travelled fairly widely through it (mostly the south, some of the north and eastern coast) and have something of an emotional interest in seeing the place start to rise above at least the stereotypical opinion most westerners tar anyone from there as being the first step.
| quote: | Because it is the fault of the West that Africa is so fucked up?
Why do you always need to find someone else to blame?!
Only the West can help Africa because it's the West the African countries owe shit loads of money too... |
It would be very easy to say yes, yes and yes to all 3.
If you think it's that easy, history shows that the continent was widely colonised by the English, German, French, Belgium, Holland and a couple of other countries as well. Those countries in particular owe a great deal of their economic strength to Africa, they could simply move resources out off the continent without having to pay any tariffs or taxes and didn't need to put anything back into their colonies short of basic assurance the supply chain would keep flowing. I won't go into the debate about the slave trade, but needless to say a lot of those former colonial countries also owe a fair amount of their development to workforces that didn't need to be paid and could do the very heavy, manual labour that was required in the pre-industrial era.
What essentially turned Africa into what it is today is a case of those colonial powers in charge deciding to leave, often under duress, very recently and leaving a vacuum of power.
By that you would have to imagine what would happen to your own country which was functioning for many years, possibly several generations of people under say, an extremely totalitarian government which just literally disappeared overnight.
No one is paying the cops, the military, shopkeepers, corporations, the public servants, all the politicians left and you're down to what exactly?
Personal survival, family unit, extended family or tribal unit.
No infrastructure what so ever to buy food (the money is worth toilet paper anyway) there is no law, no protection for you, your family or and friends.
I can get you a 30 year old M16, FN-SLR or AK for about $15-30US that was left behind by the departing government or for a little less something even older and that's all that's standing between you and anyone wanting to take away your home, kill you or your family or for your possession and food.
24 hours a day
Every day
It's not that people want to be shooting each other over there, but when you're down to nearly nothing and you don't want to die or lose what you have it's a case of literally do or die. What that produces from the vacuum of power is attrition for awhile, the toughest, meanest and most organised end up at the top over a pile of corpses and zero accountability for their actions. No one will arrest them, no ones going to see the UN fly in to save the day, the army or national guard isn't going to stop them and it isn't going to be on TV, the radio or newspaper.
After the dull roar of gunfire dies down, things are pretty rotten, mostly because all the medical professionals and what infrastructure there was is gone, along with even basic subsistence farming which was disturbed by powers trying to fill the vacuum of control over the country. You'll have sporadic in-fighting once in awhile and it's only really pot-luck if the people in charge are naughty or nice and much less competent. Someone who's only real formal qualification of leadership coming from the barrel of a firearm is rarely a good leader so you can understand why things don't work very well and rarely last past their lifetime.
That level of social implosion is very hard to overcome, it's lasted many generations of both internecine warfare and a distinct lack of education, skills above the level of subsistence survival and crippling lack of most everything... except?
Except it seems to be profoundly easy to get your hands on US, Chinese or European personal firepower, you will literally find it easier to get an automatic rifle than it is to find toilet paper or condoms, its quite possible to find an armoured vehicle of some sort before you'll find a tractor or combine harvester and ammunition is far easier to get a hold of than medicine which will stop you or your kids from dying.
The developing world does a very good trade in guns there, especially the US and Russia, some degree China... they aren't selling books, medicine, farming implements in any large amounts and they're more than happy to loan the money because there's still plenty of resources over there to be traded for it.
That is Africa at it's worst and why it ends up like that in some places and I'm not even going to touch on the massive amounts of human suffering which are a result of it. It's overwhelming, someone once asked me about going over there for humanitarian aid if a refugee camp was as terrible as it was on TV or in pictures. I told them it looks like that, sometimes worse and what mostly gets to you after being bludgeoned by the visual and emotional images to the point they don't register, is the smell. They didn't like that I insinuated that they smell because it's not really polite, but frankly the smell of death and illness is something I never really got over.
The successes are there, it's not always a negative as some countries survive their trial by fire and begin to claw their way back up from chaos to subsistence to developing countries. It just takes a lot of time, effort to get there. And as shown by a number of countries in Africa, they're far more happy to send their children to a school rather than a militia, buy rather than steal and certainly more than happy to just know the country will not disintegrate around their ears due to infighting or invasion from their neighbours.
Given a chance, a fair go just like you've been given and probably never truly appreciated and never will truly appreciate until you have literally seen the worst life can inflict. They're not going to be 'savages' or basket cases living day to day off charity like the popular media often depicts them as, they end up just like everyone else you might know living in your country. Some good, some bad, but most everyone just wants to get by where the worst thing they have to face when they get up in the morning is the boss at work and paying the bills on time.
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