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Krypton
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Texas
Freedomwatch.org commercials (FOX)

Freedoms Watch Organization

This site is trying to spread the lie that the US presence in Iraq is to spread freedom and democracy. What a load of SHIT!

This is what I sent to their pathetic website...

quote:
First of all, civilized countries do not invade sovereign countries who have not taken any action to violate the sovereignty of a neighbor state. The Iraq war was initiated based on evidence which today has all been proved wrong.

So-called evidence for justification...
1. Iraq had a secret arsenal of wmd's.
2. Iraq was colluding with Al-Qaida.
3. Iraq was trying to get nuclear materials from Nigeria.

The very foundation of the Iraq war was proved false. Now the neo-cons, who sponsor your pro-preemptive doctrine of diplomacy with this decrepit website say we are in Iraq to liberate the Iraqis, and give them freedom.

Since when are we the freedom police of the world? Have we forgotten that every country has rights just like our citizens do? I suggest you read the UN charter. It states that...

1. States are legally equal.
2. Every state enjoys the rights inherent in full sovereignty.
3. Every state is obligated to respect the fact of the legal entity of other states.
4. The territorial integrity and political independence of a state are not to be violated.
5. Each state has the right to freely choose and develop its own political, social, economic, and cultural systems.
6. Each state is obligated to carry out its international obligations fully and conscientiously and to live in peace with other states.

Iraq has been subdued, and thus was not an immediate threat to any neighboring country OR the USA for that matter. So what right did the US have to make an invasion? ABSOLUTELY NONE. Democratization is an excuse to cover the abject failure of this executive administration to concentrate on those who really attacked us on 9/11. It was not Saddam. It was AL-QAIDA! Saddam, being the paranoid power monger that he was would never have allowed an independent militant terrorist organization on his soil.

We are not obligated to stay in Iraq today because now there is a proliferation of militancy in the country, and extensive Al-Qaida operations. An occurance that was not happening before the 2003 invasion. This Iraq War is going to be longer than the US participation in World War I AND II. What do we have to show for it? A currupt Iraqi national government infiltrated by insurgents, proliferation of militancy, and independent militia organizations not loyal to the Iraqi national government. We sacrifice our soldiers for this? World War II was a noble cause. Ousting the Islamists in Afghanistan was a noble cause. But this Iraq invasion was a great blunder. And history will always remember.

Your site is nothing more than the further proliferation of the neo-conservative agenda of pre-emptive warfare and a rallying of naive nationalists who actually believe we are fighting for freedom in Iraq. It is trully sad. FreedomWatch.org is truelly pathetic. I wonder where you get the majority of your funding...


Go to the website, click the Contact tab, and give those neo-cons a piece of your mind!


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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

i bet you're proud.

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Krypton
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Texas

Well, you've failed to descredit any of these arguements, so you really ain't got shit to say.


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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

well you'll have to forgive my dismissiveness when i read stuff like:

quote:
I suggest you read the UN charter. It states that...


when you got UN resolution 1441 just hangin out there.

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Fir3start3r
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

80 Million looney CT sites and this one sticks out?
Strange...


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_Ocean_Drive_
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quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
80 Million looney CT sites and this one sticks out?
Strange...


Does it ruffle your feathers to know that Bush is an absolute numptee?


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Fir3start3r
Armin Acolyte



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
Does it ruffle your feathers to know that Bush is an absolute numptee?


That still doesn't answer the question on why this particular one; like it has some signifance...

The same can be said of all the 9 Bazillion CT sites anyways so what's your point?
Why the knee-jerked reaction?
huh huh HUH?


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Shakka
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What's a numptee? Is that like a nincompoop? Cute words make me chuckle.

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George Smiley
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Registered: Jan 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
What's a numptee? Is that like a nincompoop? Cute words make me chuckle.

It's actually spelt numpty

Numpty (n):a numpty is a person who is, by their own actions or statements, demonstrably preoccupied, forgetful, naiive or stupid in some regard. It is perfectly possible to be highly skilled or educated to a greater degree yet a complete numpty when it comes to certain aspects of one's life.

http://numpty.info/

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Fir3start3r
Armin Acolyte



Registered: Oct 2001
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Hmmm...does this mean I can call him a neomort?


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Marc Summers
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Location: New York, USA

Did anyone watch the video on that site?

I wish people would just use common sense, sometimes. I get tired of far left conspiracy theorists and stubborn right wingers.


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ResonantDrag
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then you're in the wrong place

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