aside from sidechaining the wet and the dry knob, what are some of the other ways producers sidechain delays and reverbs.

example: the delay on the vocals.

and also have you tried sidechaining other FX plugins? what were the results?

I havent tried personally but why dont u experiment and report your findings. Interesting idea

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you could easily just record your audio(vocal with delay) then sidechain it after the fact.

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Originally posted by Limit you could easily just record your audio(vocal with delay) then sidechain it after the fact.

i think rather than simple ducking i think he was referring to sidechaining effect paramaters to specific midi or audio signals (for example, manipulating the time on a delay based on the strenght of the input signal).

this is actually a pretty cool idea, when i get some time i'd be happy to experiement myself. to the thread creater: feel free to post any finding you have!

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I'm not sure that is possible? off the top of my head I can't really figure out how to do that? I'd like to know though?

I would think this would be more of an automation thing.

Its easy if you can sidechain to start with...
You set up a send channel and set your delay there to have 100% wet mix, then you put a sidechain compressor after it, and set the input of that sidechain compressor to the original signal. When the original signal triggers the compressor, the delays will duck out. I just still haven't gotten around to working out how to sidechain in live

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Hmm, very interesting topic.

To the best of my knowledge and according to what I think is the norm, most DAW's enable us to sidechain devices, not device parameters.

However, if you do wish to modulate a device's indvidual parameters based on an input signal, why not do it yourself ?

Create a seperate sequencer track for that device, and enable automation for the respective parameter.

Sketch out the value and range of the parameter value in your sequencer window, as you want it modified real-time. Atleast, that's how I do it (in Reason).

Any tips on a more practical way to do this?

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Originally posted by kitphillips Its easy if you can sidechain to start with... You set up a send channel and set your delay there to have 100% wet mix, then you put a sidechain compressor after it, and set the input of that sidechain compressor to the original signal. When the original signal triggers the compressor, the delays will duck out. I just still haven't gotten around to working out how to sidechain in live

Go on ableton forum mate and search sidechaining or it might even be in the tips and tricks section master list on the forum. Definately in there. I would explain it myself now but at the risk of sounding selfish, I can't be bothered!

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I do it all the time, I know in FL you can automate or "link to controller" pretty much anything...I sometimes link it to an LFO, so the reverb/delay level goes smoothly up and down, regardless of the kick presence. Or, link it to a kick's peak inversely with a bit of the base knob turned up in the peak controller (with peak/lfo volumes and tension tweaks, depending on how sharp the slope you want it to sound), works great.

Sometimes I'll have a small little stab or hit every few measures or so, with a huge ass delay/reverb tail, so the tail will go on but it is sidechained, while the original stab is/isn't, depending on what you want

yes but this dude is not talking about automation he is talking about sidechaining parameters. I DOn't think it is possible. Like I said before the only way is automation.

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Originally posted by Limit yes but this dude is not talking about automation he is talking about sidechaining parameters. I DOn't think it is possible. Like I said before the only way is automation.

u can do it in FL...

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Originally posted by harris b u can do it in FL...

That's what I thought?? If I set up a peak controller on a kick for example you can use that signal to modify any parameter - delay, reverb, even attack or trancegate contour.. Or maybe I'm just confused about the question..