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AniG
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epic/complex string lines

was wondering if anyone has any really good epic/complex string lines that i could take a look at, because i really suck at making string lines, and just wanted to further my knowledge and study them a bit more in regards to their chord progression and complexities.

ne one help?


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kitphillips
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Reflekt Feat Deline Bass - Need To Be Loved has one of the best string breakdowns ever... find the midi here: http://www.nonstop2k.com/archive.php?l=r&cid=0&p=3

I think the string line is in the thrillseekers remix, but the better midi (on that site) is the original mix, its the midi track called "pads" or something..

Its stunning IMO...


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T-Soma
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Always loved that track.

Maybe look at some classical music and dive a bit deeper into music theory.

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Freak
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quote:
Originally posted by kitphillips
Reflekt Feat Deline Bass - Need To Be Loved has one of the best string breakdowns ever... find the midi here: http://www.nonstop2k.com/archive.php?l=r&cid=0&p=3

I think the string line is in the thrillseekers remix, but the better midi (on that site) is the original mix, its the midi track called "pads" or something..

Its stunning IMO...


That string section was a sample from the movie 'Road to Perdition'. Straight sample...

If you want to study string arrangements, look at movie scores.

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MrJiveBoJingles
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Re: epic/complex string lines

quote:
Originally posted by AniG
was wondering if anyone has any really good epic/complex string lines that i could take a look at, because i really suck at making string lines, and just wanted to further my knowledge and study them a bit more in regards to their chord progression and complexities.

Get out a MIDI keyboard and try to figure out the chord progressions in some of your favorite songs. Then you can make your own MIDI file(s) from that and study them.

That's what will help you the most in the long run.

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supernewbie
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post some string lines you made! then i can tell yuo how to improve them!

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kitphillips
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Registered: May 2006
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quote:
Originally posted by Freak
That string section was a sample from the movie 'Road to Perdition'. Straight sample...

If you want to study string arrangements, look at movie scores.


I know, that string sample is amazing... + 1 to the movie scores bit.


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i think too many people assume that strings are very complex and difficult. not all string sections are composed of 4-5 note chords simultaenously evolving to other chords in all these weird combinatons. in a lot of cases simplicity is beautiful. looking at a chord progression isn't really going to tell you how to make one of your own. you need to just put some time in on some very basic music theory and teach yourself. Hell, just choose a key to play around in and just start experimenting with what sort of musical steps sound good together and actually be conscious of the things you notice. ask yourself questions like: why did these notes sound good in unison? why does this note compliment the previous...why does this note not compliment? combine those observations with some basic music theory and you start to fill in the pieces. then it's just about how good your imagination is. you have to learn to experiment in a beneficial way. if you don't attempt to make connections between what you are doing and the ideas behind it...you aren't really learning how to do things.

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supernewbie
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i tried to study music theory and i read a book of music theory and the teachings were following: a full note is 2x longer than a half note?
cmajor scale uses only white keys? and there aer something major diatonic intervals? huh pretty trivial?

but the book didn't tell how to use them!? and what to do with this knowledge then?

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kitphillips
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quote:
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i tried to study music theory and i read a book of music theory and the teachings were following: a full note is 2x longer than a half note?
cmajor scale uses only white keys? and there aer something major diatonic intervals? huh pretty trivial?

but the book didn't tell how to use them!? and what to do with this knowledge then?


Mate, with your talent you don't need to know anything about scales. Except perhaps, that if you know them then you can maybe avoid them more...


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jey
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Heres my sad attempt!!

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Heres my sad attempt!!


That wasnt soo bad, but could use some improvement? would you mind posting midi file of it? I could try to fiddle with it!

I like creating string lines and melodies most but I completely fail in production! And I seem to demand too high quality from myself and thus never manage to get anything done

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